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They're doing the deal as part of a consortium, Oracle is getting TikTok's cloud hosting in the US market (at least). Assuming TikTok doesn't fade in the next f

They're doing the deal as part of a consortium, Oracle is getting TikTok's cloud hosting in the US market (at least). Assuming TikTok doesn't fade in the next few years, it'll substantially increase the size of Oracle's cloud business and they can use it as a marketing point. It suggests that Oracle's cloud business has such dire traction that they can't acquire prominent customers for it any other way than to directly buy part of them. It also speaks to that Ellison & Co. view the cloud shift as a terminal threat for Oracle, one that is getting worse by the day, and that if they don't succeed at building up their cloud business, they will erode and die (and they're right). Oracle stayed in the game in the last round through massive consolidation, buying up the competition one after another (eg Siebel, PeopleSoft, etc). They'll try the same thing this time around as their organic efforts have largely failed; we'll see how much success they have given they're far outgunned this time around (and running from much further behind).

tootie 6y ago
Has anyone actually ever used their cloud offering? I assume it's awful, but I've never even looked at it.
- gen3 6y ago
  They have a free tier that I’ve heard people will run matrix instances on. It seemed somewhat generous.
- ab_testing 6y ago
  They have the most generous free tier. 2 free VM's each with 50 GB of storage and 2 free autonomous Oracle databases with 20 GB of storage.
  - gpm 6y ago
    Theoretically they do. Practically I couldn't even get an account last time I tried (a few months ago). It would attempt to charge my credit card a 1 dollar "check the payment is working fee" and fail (even though the charge was going through successfully).
    - travbrack 6y ago
      It just worked for me. The card verification page tried to launch Flash for some reason, but it worked even though my browser blocked it.
  - Polylactic_acid 6y ago
    What is the catch here? That seems good enough to run most things on.
    - michaelt 6y ago
      They offer 2 free Oracle databases. The catch is they're Oracle databases. In other words it's the same as every cloud provider: They hope you'll build a business system that uses enough of their proprietary tech that you can't easily move to another provider.
      - ab_testing 6y ago
        You can run mysql on any other free database on the 2 free compute instances. It is totally up to you. The autonomous database is Oracle's offering of their Oracle database - that requires no DBA or tuning and runs on Exadata infrastructure. They are offering it for free - because they want enterprises using existing on-premise Oracle databases, to move their existing DB applications to the cloud. Oracle Autonomous databases comes with free Oracle APEX - which is a low code / no code toolchain.
    - nnt38 6y ago
      You get 1/8 OCPU per VPS
- JamesCoyne 6y ago
  For a hobbyist, the free tier is amazing. 2 micro instances free forever.
- suyash 6y ago
  It's actually pretty solid, UX is also nicer than AWS or GCP
sreeramb93 6y ago
ZOOM Inc cloud partner is oracle. Oracle increasingly seems to be a bridge between US and China.
- otterley 6y ago
  Zoom is not a Chinese company. Its founder and CEO happens to be Chinese, and they have operations in China, but the company was founded, incorporated, and initially exclusively operated in the U.S.
  - sheeshkebab 6y ago
    Development is all done out of China...
    - otterley 6y ago
      Not so. Their engineering core is in San Jose, CA.
      - afrojack123 6y ago
        The front end is not core.
        deleted 6y ago
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  - 8note 6y ago
    It's more interesting to say "does the Chinese government have control over this company?" Does the ceo/founder have family in china that can be held hostage?
    - chrischen 6y ago
      That applies to most Chinese diaspora then.
suyash 6y ago
Oracle has recently acquired top global brands as customers for their cloud business : https://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-beats-q1-estimates-wins-new-cloud-business-with-major-brands/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-beats-q1-estimates-wins...

tootie 6y ago

Has anyone actually ever used their cloud offering? I assume it's awful, but I've never even looked at it.

gen3 6y ago
They have a free tier that I’ve heard people will run matrix instances on. It seemed somewhat generous.
ab_testing 6y ago
They have the most generous free tier. 2 free VM's each with 50 GB of storage and 2 free autonomous Oracle databases with 20 GB of storage.
- gpm 6y ago
  Theoretically they do. Practically I couldn't even get an account last time I tried (a few months ago). It would attempt to charge my credit card a 1 dollar "check the payment is working fee" and fail (even though the charge was going through successfully).
  - travbrack 6y ago
    It just worked for me. The card verification page tried to launch Flash for some reason, but it worked even though my browser blocked it.
- Polylactic_acid 6y ago
  What is the catch here? That seems good enough to run most things on.
  - michaelt 6y ago
    They offer 2 free Oracle databases. The catch is they're Oracle databases. In other words it's the same as every cloud provider: They hope you'll build a business system that uses enough of their proprietary tech that you can't easily move to another provider.
    - ab_testing 6y ago
      You can run mysql on any other free database on the 2 free compute instances. It is totally up to you. The autonomous database is Oracle's offering of their Oracle database - that requires no DBA or tuning and runs on Exadata infrastructure. They are offering it for free - because they want enterprises using existing on-premise Oracle databases, to move their existing DB applications to the cloud. Oracle Autonomous databases comes with free Oracle APEX - which is a low code / no code toolchain.
  - nnt38 6y ago
    You get 1/8 OCPU per VPS
JamesCoyne 6y ago
For a hobbyist, the free tier is amazing. 2 micro instances free forever.
suyash 6y ago
It's actually pretty solid, UX is also nicer than AWS or GCP

sreeramb93 6y ago

ZOOM Inc cloud partner is oracle. Oracle increasingly seems to be a bridge between US and China.

otterley 6y ago
Zoom is not a Chinese company. Its founder and CEO happens to be Chinese, and they have operations in China, but the company was founded, incorporated, and initially exclusively operated in the U.S.
- sheeshkebab 6y ago
  Development is all done out of China...
  - otterley 6y ago
    Not so. Their engineering core is in San Jose, CA.
    - afrojack123 6y ago
      The front end is not core.
      - deleted 6y ago
        [deleted]
- 8note 6y ago
  It's more interesting to say "does the Chinese government have control over this company?" Does the ceo/founder have family in china that can be held hostage?
  - chrischen 6y ago
    That applies to most Chinese diaspora then.

suyash 6y ago

Oracle has recently acquired top global brands as customers for their cloud business : https://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-beats-q1-estimates-wins-new-cloud-business-with-major-brands/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/oracle-beats-q1-estimates-wins...