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They found a higher bidder? Or did export restrictions from China hinder sale?

kmfrk 6y ago
ByteDance announced they weren't going to hand over the recommendation algo for TikTok which seems like a bit of a dealbreaker. ~~https://twitter.com/verge/status/1305285085722292224~~ https://twitter.com/verge/status/1305285085722292224~~ Right link: https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708 https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708
- deleted 6y ago
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- ComputerGuru 6y ago
  Your link has nothing to do with recommendation engines? Perhaps you pasted the wrong one?
  - kmfrk 6y ago
    Oh whoops, I picked the tweet next to this one: https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708 https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708.
- actuator 6y ago
  This recommendation algo bit looks unnecessarily hyped up, it is not as if they have cracked a new superior recommendation method. From an article that was posted few days back, it seemed like collaborative filtering with more signals being collected about engagement. Didn't look like something which say FB or Snap won't be able to do.
nikolay 6y ago
Oracle? :)
- bythe4mile 6y ago
  It does look like it. https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-for-tiktoks-u-s-operations-11600039821?mod=mhp https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-...
  - nikolay 6y ago
    So stupid, really.
  - bovermyer 6y ago
    That's... disappointing. While Amazon may be the reigning modern incarnation of evil, Oracle has held that title for longer.
    - azemetre 6y ago
      Is Oracle evil? I thought they were just shrewd business people and not stewards of OSS. I know they have a terrible history in open source but what are some of the evil act’s they’ve done? Just genuinely curious. I’m a dev that’s only been around the last decade or so. Wasn’t around when they gained prominence.
      - christophilus 6y ago
        Oracle is highly litigious. They also acquired and killed a number of products that had a cult following. Their consulting wing sucks, but honestly not much more than Accenture or the like.
  - axaxs 6y ago
    That's so...odd. When I think Oracle, I think old suits selling boring old tech. Not 12 year olds twerking and/or pretending to be killed at Auschwitz(yes, a real trend).
    - senectus1 6y ago
      yeah.. lots of head scratching when I saw that announcement.
metamet 6y ago
It's looking like Oracle (of which Larry Ellison recently proclaimed his support of Trump) is now the front runner: https://twitter.com/jolingkent/status/1305290263632343040 https://twitter.com/jolingkent/status/1305290263632343040 Edit: "Oracle Wins Bidding for TikTok in U.S., After Microsoft Proposal Rejected" https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-for-tiktoks-u-s-operations-11600039821 https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-...
- adrr 6y ago
  So can we now buy people's TikTok viewing data along with their credit card purchasing data that Oracle already sells?

ByteDance announced they weren't going to hand over the recommendation algo for TikTok which seems like a bit of a dealbreaker. ~~https://twitter.com/verge/status/1305285085722292224~~ https://twitter.com/verge/status/1305285085722292224~~ Right link: https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708 https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708

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ComputerGuru 6y ago
Your link has nothing to do with recommendation engines? Perhaps you pasted the wrong one?
- kmfrk 6y ago
  Oh whoops, I picked the tweet next to this one: https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708 https://twitter.com/business/status/1305179144171421708.
actuator 6y ago
This recommendation algo bit looks unnecessarily hyped up, it is not as if they have cracked a new superior recommendation method. From an article that was posted few days back, it seemed like collaborative filtering with more signals being collected about engagement. Didn't look like something which say FB or Snap won't be able to do.

nikolay 6y ago

Oracle? :)

bythe4mile 6y ago
It does look like it. https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-for-tiktoks-u-s-operations-11600039821?mod=mhp https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-...
- nikolay 6y ago
  So stupid, really.
- bovermyer 6y ago
  That's... disappointing. While Amazon may be the reigning modern incarnation of evil, Oracle has held that title for longer.
  - azemetre 6y ago
    Is Oracle evil? I thought they were just shrewd business people and not stewards of OSS. I know they have a terrible history in open source but what are some of the evil act’s they’ve done? Just genuinely curious. I’m a dev that’s only been around the last decade or so. Wasn’t around when they gained prominence.
    - christophilus 6y ago
      Oracle is highly litigious. They also acquired and killed a number of products that had a cult following. Their consulting wing sucks, but honestly not much more than Accenture or the like.
- axaxs 6y ago
  That's so...odd. When I think Oracle, I think old suits selling boring old tech. Not 12 year olds twerking and/or pretending to be killed at Auschwitz(yes, a real trend).
  - senectus1 6y ago
    yeah.. lots of head scratching when I saw that announcement.

metamet 6y ago

It's looking like Oracle (of which Larry Ellison recently proclaimed his support of Trump) is now the front runner: https://twitter.com/jolingkent/status/1305290263632343040 https://twitter.com/jolingkent/status/1305290263632343040 Edit: "Oracle Wins Bidding for TikTok in U.S., After Microsoft Proposal Rejected" https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-for-tiktoks-u-s-operations-11600039821 https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-drops-out-of-bidding-...

adrr 6y ago
So can we now buy people's TikTok viewing data along with their credit card purchasing data that Oracle already sells?