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The node.js has a big blm banner for example and claims that white surpremacy and police brutality is global issues when it's really just very US-based. I just

The node.js has a big blm banner for example and claims that white surpremacy and police brutality is global issues when it's really just very US-based. I just don't see how that has anything to do with javascript development.

true_religion 6y ago
It takes different forms. In the US, the it was slavery, segregation and today police brutality and ideological oppression. Yet the US, isn't alone in this. It never has been. For example, although the famous poem Whiteman Burden was about the American-Phillipine war, it was written by a British poet based on his view of British Imperialism. That legacy of colonialism lives on today throughout everywhere in the English speaking world. As for the French, the less said about how they exploit the CFA zone countries, the better. The Russians? Currently the leaders of European racism. This isn't simply a topic isolated to a parochial country, far far away from the ideologically pure Old World. What occurs in the US was merely a Flashpoint.
- ecmascript 6y ago
  Ok tell me how white supremacy and police brutality is a problem in let's say... Japan? A country with basically no white population or violence of any kind. Americans may be shocked to find out that whites are actually a very underrepresented group in global terms and there are a lot of countries where white people are in such a minority that basically all of them are immigrants. They explicitly state that these issues are global and thus must be an issue in every country. Sure you can pick a few countries where there are big issues, since there is a lot of them. But there are also a lot of countries where it isn't a big issue. These countries, like Japan, may have other issues but not explicitly those stated. This is definitive proof that they are pushing a specific, american political agenda where you paint with big brushes over the entire world. It's also objectively and demonstratively false. My country for example, Sweden, rather have the opposite issue of police brutality, the police basically use too little force and this creates a bunch of issues where criminality reign rampant.
  - true_religion 6y ago
    To show that something is a global issue, I merely have to display instances world-wide, not in every single country (that's the difference between global/ubiquitous and 'universal'). Having the issue in Africa, North and South America, Europe, and Australia is enough to satisfy that. I'll have to defer to others experiences in Asia, as keeping up with 4 continents is enough for me ;) Additionally, this ideology expresses itself in different ways per country. The issue of white supremacy in for instance Togo, is not that there are white police officers and segregated drinking fountains. It's that the French forcibly colonized the area, then set up an exploitative trade zone after WW2, and continues to prop up brutal dictatorships merely because the leaders are willing to cede economic control to France. It's that the French are forcing their language & culture on a country as part of a 'trade' agreement (to the point where the government must buy French textbooks), but there isn't any reverse requirement of cultural exchange. White supremacy is a global issue. Yet all global issues won't affect every country equally. Climate change may have global effects, but as the Fins famously said 'we live in the mountains, we will be the last to drown!'.
    - lenkite 6y ago
      White supremacy is NOT a global issue. I am from India and these banners irritate me to no end. They really need to add a regional/geographical check before pushing national agendas worldwide.
    - ecmascript 6y ago
      I strongly disagree, if that is the definition for a global issue. Then basically every issue is a global issue. It just doesn't make sense. If you claim white supremacy is an issue today because of history, well then so is black supremacy, asian supremacy etc. Should we still claim the Djingis Khan to be an issue today since a lot of us are descendants? At some point, you pass the line and you become ridicolous. I think you and a lot of others have crossed that line. I feel so disconnected from your views and the people who write BLM-banners like those on nodejs.org that we could live on different planets. It is hard to even have a rational conversation because of this and for what? It has nothing to do with tech or javascript development. It's inherently stupid. > Fins famously said 'we live in the mountains, we will be the last to drown!' I suppose you don't think of the Finnish people? Because these guys mostly don't live in the mountains. :)
- fomine3 6y ago
  I don't like to see BLM message to be said as worldwide problem in global project/product websites. Racism is the problem in the worldwide but BLM looks like US domestic problem caused by historical, gun, police reason.

true_religion 6y ago

It takes different forms. In the US, the it was slavery, segregation and today police brutality and ideological oppression. Yet the US, isn't alone in this. It never has been. For example, although the famous poem Whiteman Burden was about the American-Phillipine war, it was written by a British poet based on his view of British Imperialism. That legacy of colonialism lives on today throughout everywhere in the English speaking world. As for the French, the less said about how they exploit the CFA zone countries, the better. The Russians? Currently the leaders of European racism. This isn't simply a topic isolated to a parochial country, far far away from the ideologically pure Old World. What occurs in the US was merely a Flashpoint.

ecmascript 6y ago
Ok tell me how white supremacy and police brutality is a problem in let's say... Japan? A country with basically no white population or violence of any kind. Americans may be shocked to find out that whites are actually a very underrepresented group in global terms and there are a lot of countries where white people are in such a minority that basically all of them are immigrants. They explicitly state that these issues are global and thus must be an issue in every country. Sure you can pick a few countries where there are big issues, since there is a lot of them. But there are also a lot of countries where it isn't a big issue. These countries, like Japan, may have other issues but not explicitly those stated. This is definitive proof that they are pushing a specific, american political agenda where you paint with big brushes over the entire world. It's also objectively and demonstratively false. My country for example, Sweden, rather have the opposite issue of police brutality, the police basically use too little force and this creates a bunch of issues where criminality reign rampant.
- true_religion 6y ago
  To show that something is a global issue, I merely have to display instances world-wide, not in every single country (that's the difference between global/ubiquitous and 'universal'). Having the issue in Africa, North and South America, Europe, and Australia is enough to satisfy that. I'll have to defer to others experiences in Asia, as keeping up with 4 continents is enough for me ;) Additionally, this ideology expresses itself in different ways per country. The issue of white supremacy in for instance Togo, is not that there are white police officers and segregated drinking fountains. It's that the French forcibly colonized the area, then set up an exploitative trade zone after WW2, and continues to prop up brutal dictatorships merely because the leaders are willing to cede economic control to France. It's that the French are forcing their language & culture on a country as part of a 'trade' agreement (to the point where the government must buy French textbooks), but there isn't any reverse requirement of cultural exchange. White supremacy is a global issue. Yet all global issues won't affect every country equally. Climate change may have global effects, but as the Fins famously said 'we live in the mountains, we will be the last to drown!'.
  - lenkite 6y ago
    White supremacy is NOT a global issue. I am from India and these banners irritate me to no end. They really need to add a regional/geographical check before pushing national agendas worldwide.
  - ecmascript 6y ago
    I strongly disagree, if that is the definition for a global issue. Then basically every issue is a global issue. It just doesn't make sense. If you claim white supremacy is an issue today because of history, well then so is black supremacy, asian supremacy etc. Should we still claim the Djingis Khan to be an issue today since a lot of us are descendants? At some point, you pass the line and you become ridicolous. I think you and a lot of others have crossed that line. I feel so disconnected from your views and the people who write BLM-banners like those on nodejs.org that we could live on different planets. It is hard to even have a rational conversation because of this and for what? It has nothing to do with tech or javascript development. It's inherently stupid. > Fins famously said 'we live in the mountains, we will be the last to drown!' I suppose you don't think of the Finnish people? Because these guys mostly don't live in the mountains. :)
fomine3 6y ago
I don't like to see BLM message to be said as worldwide problem in global project/product websites. Racism is the problem in the worldwide but BLM looks like US domestic problem caused by historical, gun, police reason.