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>ARM is in such a great position currently. There's no reason to sell except that SoftBank is in desperate need of capital. Softbank needs cash. sells ARM. not

>ARM is in such a great position currently. There's no reason to sell except that SoftBank is in desperate need of capital. Softbank needs cash. sells ARM. not a good reason?

Animats 6y ago
Softbank has to prop up Uber and WeWork with something. I dunno, would you rather have ARM technology owned by a US company or by a front for the Saudi sovereign wealth fund?
- baybal2 6y ago
  > Softbank has to prop up Uber and WeWork with something. Softbank has a chainsaw prince as a main creditor. This is a very compelling reason to get cash in any way possible.
  - athriren 6y ago
    to be pedantic i believe it was a hacksaw
- MangoCoffee 6y ago
  i agree with you but it look like Softbank want money more than ARM. it doesn't matter what you and i think. its whatever Softbank CEO think.
- adrian_b 6y ago
  Unfortunately, after the last years any non-US citizen would rather have ARM technology owned by a Saudi fund or by any other non-US entity. When you choose to include ARM technology in some of your products, then you will spend a lot of time and money for the implementation and you will need a long term availability of that technology, to be able to recover you costs and to give you time to switch to another technology, if desired. Now any long-term commitment for providing any US-owned technology can no longer be believed, because precedents show that such commitments can be unilaterally canceled at any time, without an early enough warning.
  - chii 6y ago
    > long-term commitment for providing any US-owned technology can no longer be believed only if you are not already under the thumb of the US gov't. Otherwise, it's a non-issue.
dylan604 6y ago
you give 'em an arm, they take a leg. after ARM, what else is in their portfolio that's not a flop like WeWork, Theranos, etc? It wouldn't be surprising to find SoftBank needing to sell other appendages too
- glangdale 6y ago
  Given the Saudi connection, this turn of phrase is... alarming.
  - dylan604 6y ago
    or to turn it again, it is dis-arming

>ARM is in such a great position currently. There's no reason to sell except that SoftBank is in desperate need of capital. Softbank needs cash. sells ARM. not a good reason?

Animats 6y ago

Softbank has to prop up Uber and WeWork with something. I dunno, would you rather have ARM technology owned by a US company or by a front for the Saudi sovereign wealth fund?

baybal2 6y ago
> Softbank has to prop up Uber and WeWork with something. Softbank has a chainsaw prince as a main creditor. This is a very compelling reason to get cash in any way possible.
- athriren 6y ago
  to be pedantic i believe it was a hacksaw
MangoCoffee 6y ago
i agree with you but it look like Softbank want money more than ARM. it doesn't matter what you and i think. its whatever Softbank CEO think.
adrian_b 6y ago
Unfortunately, after the last years any non-US citizen would rather have ARM technology owned by a Saudi fund or by any other non-US entity. When you choose to include ARM technology in some of your products, then you will spend a lot of time and money for the implementation and you will need a long term availability of that technology, to be able to recover you costs and to give you time to switch to another technology, if desired. Now any long-term commitment for providing any US-owned technology can no longer be believed, because precedents show that such commitments can be unilaterally canceled at any time, without an early enough warning.
- chii 6y ago
  > long-term commitment for providing any US-owned technology can no longer be believed only if you are not already under the thumb of the US gov't. Otherwise, it's a non-issue.

dylan604 6y ago

you give 'em an arm, they take a leg. after ARM, what else is in their portfolio that's not a flop like WeWork, Theranos, etc? It wouldn't be surprising to find SoftBank needing to sell other appendages too

glangdale 6y ago
Given the Saudi connection, this turn of phrase is... alarming.
- dylan604 6y ago
  or to turn it again, it is dis-arming