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Realistically the biggest problem with Rust today is the biggest problem it has always had - it is too hard to write useful programs. Rust has seen some success

Realistically the biggest problem with Rust today is the biggest problem it has always had - it is too hard to write useful programs. Rust has seen some success in very targeted use cases, but that isn't enough. I am 100% confident that introducing Rust to my company would be a huge mistake.

Ar-Curunir 6y ago
I mean, given that Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, Dropbox, Mozilla, etc are all using Rust for important parts of their infrastructure, I think "making it easy to write useful programs" is not one of Rust's weaknesses. Yes, it's not as "easy" to pick up as C or Python, but it also prevents footguns introduced by those languages.
- tasogare 6y ago
  No, the companies you listed wrote a PR blog posts or two saying they use Rust for a component or two, for a minor or internal product. Saying they are using it for "important parts of their infrastructure" is quite a stretch...
  - lights0123 6y ago
    Is Dropbox's sync engine a minor product? The entire reason why Firefox has gotten much faster over the past few years? Linkerd? What about Amazon's Firecracker, powering Lambda and Fargate?
- umanwizard 6y ago
  Rust is very niche within FB and not used by the overwhelming majority of teams. It is less important to FB than C++, Python, Objective-C, Java, Hack, and Ruby. That said, yes, it’s used some, but that reflects a few random teams having decided to use it (most notably hg and Libra), not some grand strategic decision. Source: I worked at Facebook for four years, until one year ago. (Incidentally, I’ve spent the year since then working exclusively in Rust for my day job, and I love the language)
andi999 6y ago
Is your company currently using c++?
Aeolun 6y ago
I think introducing Rust would be great! 50% of the people at my company would suddenly stop producing any work at all, which is a huge improvement over the negative work that is currently produced.
- brodo 6y ago
  High time to quit!

Ar-Curunir 6y ago

I mean, given that Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple, Dropbox, Mozilla, etc are all using Rust for important parts of their infrastructure, I think "making it easy to write useful programs" is not one of Rust's weaknesses. Yes, it's not as "easy" to pick up as C or Python, but it also prevents footguns introduced by those languages.

tasogare 6y ago
No, the companies you listed wrote a PR blog posts or two saying they use Rust for a component or two, for a minor or internal product. Saying they are using it for "important parts of their infrastructure" is quite a stretch...
- lights0123 6y ago
  Is Dropbox's sync engine a minor product? The entire reason why Firefox has gotten much faster over the past few years? Linkerd? What about Amazon's Firecracker, powering Lambda and Fargate?
umanwizard 6y ago
Rust is very niche within FB and not used by the overwhelming majority of teams. It is less important to FB than C++, Python, Objective-C, Java, Hack, and Ruby. That said, yes, it’s used some, but that reflects a few random teams having decided to use it (most notably hg and Libra), not some grand strategic decision. Source: I worked at Facebook for four years, until one year ago. (Incidentally, I’ve spent the year since then working exclusively in Rust for my day job, and I love the language)

andi999 6y ago

Is your company currently using c++?

Aeolun 6y ago

I think introducing Rust would be great! 50% of the people at my company would suddenly stop producing any work at all, which is a huge improvement over the negative work that is currently produced.

brodo 6y ago
High time to quit!