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> Raise taxes (the richer, the higher the fee) then fix the problem Is there any indication that this is caused by shortage of funds? Policy is what is prevent

> Raise taxes (the richer, the higher the fee) then fix the problem Is there any indication that this is caused by shortage of funds? Policy is what is preventing proper forest management. Compared to building highways and state-funded healthcare, forest raking and related tasks are cheap.

bumblebritches5 6y ago
Please stop pushing that idea that people can actually rake the dead pine needles across millions of acreas of forests as an actual solution. The problem isn't the pine needles, the problem is the 25 ton tree trucks laying everywhere... Raking the ground is useless, empty busy work.
heimatau 6y ago
> Is there any indication that this is caused by shortage of funds? States don't have the luxury to just print money. For example, California uses inmates to supplement their firefighting workforce and at least 9 States have come to our aid this season, due to covid19 reducing that slave/prison labor. I wouldn't call it 'policy' that prevents OR and WA. Most likely true in CA. I'd call it lack of desire. Most politicians aim for the most popular ideas that help get them reelected, not something prudent. I don't care if I get down voted. Even if the West Coast wasn't in drier conditions, this would still be a problem. Not only that, I'm skeptical that WA is that dry. Maybe in select places but I'm very skeptical, maybe the heat changed the situation as well (record highs all throughout the West Coast prior to these fires). Look, if you aren't blaming your leaders while things are this bad. How can you praise them when things are good? This is your life. This is your health. This is you and your families future. The blame falls on them, full stop. The fact that the Governor didn't threaten the Bay/Tech Sector with steep taxes if they don't help fix it, is another stupid move. This isn't rocket science. This isn't something too far for humanity to solve. If you care about your State, be patriot and save it from the fires. We're in crisis after crisis, yet no one is actually leading. Good luck having a State with 2 more decades of this. If you didn't murder them through gross negligence then you destroyed their lungs/health with all this smoke. Gov Newsom signed a thing to allow prisoners to accept a low paying job as a firefighter? Seriously? Why not argue with your legislature and work on behalf of the people? That's right, no one gives a damn and if you think to the contrary, what actions have they done that make you think that? Did you know a lot of residential new construction, in CA, is in fire prone areas? This is because...? Good leaders? Or are the people going to demand more from their leaders?
- IncRnd 6y ago
  > Look, if you aren't blaming your leaders while things are this bad. How can you praise them when things are good? This is your life. This is your health. This is you and your families future. The blame falls on them, full stop. That's not true. The blame falls on the voters who keep voting for those clowns, one after another in a parade of lies, greed, and obfuscation, all for the promised, immediate benefits.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    It seems pretty unreasonable to say voters are at fault for every issue they don't become a single-issue voter against.
- WalterBright 6y ago
  > Gov Newsom signed a thing to allow prisoners to accept a low paying job as a firefighter? If I was in prison, I'd take such a job voluntarily. I'd much prefer working outdoors on something useful than rotting away in a concrete box. > is in fire prone areas? My understanding is that the risk of your house burning down can be greatly reduced with some fairly inexpensive design and materials changes. This can be done via the building code.

bumblebritches5 6y ago

Please stop pushing that idea that people can actually rake the dead pine needles across millions of acreas of forests as an actual solution. The problem isn't the pine needles, the problem is the 25 ton tree trucks laying everywhere... Raking the ground is useless, empty busy work.

heimatau 6y ago

> Is there any indication that this is caused by shortage of funds? States don't have the luxury to just print money. For example, California uses inmates to supplement their firefighting workforce and at least 9 States have come to our aid this season, due to covid19 reducing that slave/prison labor. I wouldn't call it 'policy' that prevents OR and WA. Most likely true in CA. I'd call it lack of desire. Most politicians aim for the most popular ideas that help get them reelected, not something prudent. I don't care if I get down voted. Even if the West Coast wasn't in drier conditions, this would still be a problem. Not only that, I'm skeptical that WA is that dry. Maybe in select places but I'm very skeptical, maybe the heat changed the situation as well (record highs all throughout the West Coast prior to these fires). Look, if you aren't blaming your leaders while things are this bad. How can you praise them when things are good? This is your life. This is your health. This is you and your families future. The blame falls on them, full stop. The fact that the Governor didn't threaten the Bay/Tech Sector with steep taxes if they don't help fix it, is another stupid move. This isn't rocket science. This isn't something too far for humanity to solve. If you care about your State, be patriot and save it from the fires. We're in crisis after crisis, yet no one is actually leading. Good luck having a State with 2 more decades of this. If you didn't murder them through gross negligence then you destroyed their lungs/health with all this smoke. Gov Newsom signed a thing to allow prisoners to accept a low paying job as a firefighter? Seriously? Why not argue with your legislature and work on behalf of the people? That's right, no one gives a damn and if you think to the contrary, what actions have they done that make you think that? Did you know a lot of residential new construction, in CA, is in fire prone areas? This is because...? Good leaders? Or are the people going to demand more from their leaders?

IncRnd 6y ago
> Look, if you aren't blaming your leaders while things are this bad. How can you praise them when things are good? This is your life. This is your health. This is you and your families future. The blame falls on them, full stop. That's not true. The blame falls on the voters who keep voting for those clowns, one after another in a parade of lies, greed, and obfuscation, all for the promised, immediate benefits.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  It seems pretty unreasonable to say voters are at fault for every issue they don't become a single-issue voter against.
WalterBright 6y ago
> Gov Newsom signed a thing to allow prisoners to accept a low paying job as a firefighter? If I was in prison, I'd take such a job voluntarily. I'd much prefer working outdoors on something useful than rotting away in a concrete box. > is in fire prone areas? My understanding is that the risk of your house burning down can be greatly reduced with some fairly inexpensive design and materials changes. This can be done via the building code.