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Thanks to Chrome which saves the zoom settings per domain, I have "configured" every site I read to be at the same size (125% for most of them, 110% for some, 2

by linkdd 6y ago

Thanks to Chrome which saves the zoom settings per domain, I have "configured" every site I read to be at the same size (125% for most of them, 110% for some, 200% for monsters who put a very small font). I do this mainly because switching from font size to font size actually tires my eyes (they always need to refocus) on the long term.

dhosek 6y ago
This change seems to have made its way upstream into Webkit (or perhaps went downstream to Chrome? Who knows, probably the former though). It's really nice to have the zoom setting preserved on visits rather than on tabs. I'm also fond of the two finger double tap on the trackpad to zoom into a narrow column of text on a website (I assume Chrome also supports this) which is my primary mode of reading a lot of websites.
- jannes 6y ago
  The zoom level can be read by the website and used for fingerprinting, so some browsers see it as a privacy issue to preserve it across visits. Firefox supports both, but the default is to preserve it, I think.
  - toyg 6y ago
    I’m pretty sure the default in FF is to preserve zoom level per-domain across sessions.
  - pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
    What? Can the browser not just… not tell the website?
    - jannes 6y ago
      It is not that simple to block. There are numerous standardised JavaScript APIs that allow websites to measure the size of rendered text.
jrockway 6y ago
Chrome has a "minimum font size" setting that overrides websites that use small fonts. I set my minimum high (16 normal, 14 minimum) and haven't run into any breakage. (I am not sure if the point sizes of fonts have any meaning. I like my text a certain size and it's a different number in Chrome, Powershell, and Putty, which is weird to me...)
- rbanffy 6y ago
  IIRC, in typography, a point is 1/72th of an inch. I don't think desktop computers, with the possible exception of the NeXT, ever respected that.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
    It's not possible to respect it, really. Put a nominally 12pt font on your screen. Now plugin a monitor with 2x the resolution. Now plugin in a projector with 4x the surface area, but the same resolution. Drag the window around. What happens? Yes, in highly defined scenarios, where you know for certain the number of pixels per inch and you know it doesn't change, you can generate as 12pt font that is actually 1/6th of an inch high. Most of the time, software doesn't find itself in these situations.
    - srtjstjsj 6y ago
      Projectors don't even have surface area! There's no fixed projection distance.
      - rbanffy 6y ago
        Projectors are supposed to allow you to disrespect that. You don't use a projector the same way you use a tablet or a desktop monitor. Monitors are not. They have fixed surface area and it's entirely possible to respect that, since modern monitors identify themselves to the OS, so it's relatively trivial to calculate pixel density. This sizing system was designed to be used with paper and PostScript printers respect it (or it'd be impractical to drive printers with different pixel densities).
toyg 6y ago
I believe this has been in Firefox since forever...

by linkdd 6y ago

dhosek 6y ago

This change seems to have made its way upstream into Webkit (or perhaps went downstream to Chrome? Who knows, probably the former though). It's really nice to have the zoom setting preserved on visits rather than on tabs. I'm also fond of the two finger double tap on the trackpad to zoom into a narrow column of text on a website (I assume Chrome also supports this) which is my primary mode of reading a lot of websites.

jannes 6y ago
The zoom level can be read by the website and used for fingerprinting, so some browsers see it as a privacy issue to preserve it across visits. Firefox supports both, but the default is to preserve it, I think.
- toyg 6y ago
  I’m pretty sure the default in FF is to preserve zoom level per-domain across sessions.
- pwdisswordfish0 6y ago
  What? Can the browser not just… not tell the website?
  - jannes 6y ago
    It is not that simple to block. There are numerous standardised JavaScript APIs that allow websites to measure the size of rendered text.

jrockway 6y ago

Chrome has a "minimum font size" setting that overrides websites that use small fonts. I set my minimum high (16 normal, 14 minimum) and haven't run into any breakage. (I am not sure if the point sizes of fonts have any meaning. I like my text a certain size and it's a different number in Chrome, Powershell, and Putty, which is weird to me...)

rbanffy 6y ago
IIRC, in typography, a point is 1/72th of an inch. I don't think desktop computers, with the possible exception of the NeXT, ever respected that.
- PaulDavisThe1st 6y ago
  It's not possible to respect it, really. Put a nominally 12pt font on your screen. Now plugin a monitor with 2x the resolution. Now plugin in a projector with 4x the surface area, but the same resolution. Drag the window around. What happens? Yes, in highly defined scenarios, where you know for certain the number of pixels per inch and you know it doesn't change, you can generate as 12pt font that is actually 1/6th of an inch high. Most of the time, software doesn't find itself in these situations.
  - srtjstjsj 6y ago
    Projectors don't even have surface area! There's no fixed projection distance.
    - rbanffy 6y ago
      Projectors are supposed to allow you to disrespect that. You don't use a projector the same way you use a tablet or a desktop monitor. Monitors are not. They have fixed surface area and it's entirely possible to respect that, since modern monitors identify themselves to the OS, so it's relatively trivial to calculate pixel density. This sizing system was designed to be used with paper and PostScript printers respect it (or it'd be impractical to drive printers with different pixel densities).

toyg 6y ago

I believe this has been in Firefox since forever...