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I started to change my bevahiour. I stopped buying fruit and vegetables in plastic wrapping. I buy milk in glass or paper containers. In my household I pay supe

I started to change my bevahiour. I stopped buying fruit and vegetables in plastic wrapping. I buy milk in glass or paper containers. In my household I pay super close attention to how much water is running when we do dishes. We fill up the sink and wash it there. We turn off lights wherever possible and use energy efficient devices. I only bought A++ electrical kitchen appliances, we invested in a new energy efficient boiler and have a smart metre where we track our gas and electricity usage. I also switched our energy provider who uses 100% renewable energy. I also stopped worrying about COVID and wearing masks and keeping social distance. If humans are weak and die from a begnin virus then it's part of the circle of life. Keeping everyone alive through unsustainable measures only harms our planet due to over population and further exploitation. I stopped eating meat in 2018, don't own a car and I've started to book 15h train journeys when I travel to Europe instead of going on a 3 hour plane. There is a lot we can do, but I agree the most effective way would be to start civil unrest and force leaders into their knees to enforce more measures to everyone and not rely on people's good will like myself.

myvoiceismypass 6y ago
Wait what? “I also stopped worrying about COVID and wearing masks and keeping social distance. If humans are weak and die from a begnin virus then it's part of the circle of life. Keeping everyone alive through unsustainable measures only harms our planet due to over population and further exploitation.” Benign?
- ajkdhcb2 6y ago
  Yes, humans in previous generations wouldn't even bat an eyelid at the death rates. it wasn't long ago that people used to willingly go on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way
  - devit 6y ago
    > on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way Source? Seems highly implausible (in general).
    - dredmorbius 6y ago
      The "middle passage" portion of the slave trade saw ~15% mortality, though that would have been high for non-slave passenger travel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage Deaths at sea definitely occurred. Credible accurate records don't seem to be available however, as this article's abstract notes: Farley Grubb, "Morbidity and Mortality on the North Atlantic Passage: Eighteenth-Century German Immigration" (1987). https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611 https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
      Yeah, the only kind of boat where that was probably true was the kind where the majority of "passengers" definitely weren't going willingly.
    - inglor_cz 6y ago
      "Coffin ships" that carried the Irish fleeing the potato famine to America were notorious for their death rate and generally bad conditions. Of course, this was an already weakened population of passengers.
- tremon 6y ago
  COVID-19 really is a benign virus, as far a viruses go. I don't agree with the rest of that statement, but its effects on people infected are absolutely mild when compared to some other viruses: Polio, HIV and Ebola have much worse effects. Other viruses that we control for with vaccination regularly have much more severe long-term effects than we now know from COVID, like causing birth defects (Rubella), deafness (Mumps), immunocompromization (Measles) or cancer (HPV).
oulu2006 6y ago
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, my guess is the reference to COVID. The earth is currently overpopulated for the system we have in-place to feed it. We are very inefficient in resource usage and waste over 1/2 the food we produce each year. COVID isn't the answer to this problem, but your point is valid.
- imtringued 6y ago
  It's definitively the reference to COVID. Telling people to die from a preventable cause is conflicting with the rest of the message.
  - kortex 6y ago
    I mean if your message is "too many humans are bad for the planet, so if I die of Covid, so be it" at least it's mostly consistent. The part I object to is the lack of masks leading to spreading CoV2 to those who haven't volunteered to get out of the gene pool.
    - foxdev 6y ago
      I adapted an old saying for the new reality: "Your right to risk your life stops at my respiratory system."
    - dustinmoris 6y ago
      Do you know anyone who died because they volunteered? Besides that, when I was 10 years old and I asked at that time 30-40 year old people to not smoke cigarettes indoors because the passive smoking was damaging my young lungs and can lead to severe cancer and early death I was told that this is none of my business. Those people voluneered to damange their own health and knowingly also damanged my and other children's health. Now the same people are in their advanced age and demand from me to wear a mask because they don't want to bear the consequences of their earlier decisions. They essentially harmed themselves, and now they want to harm me again so that I have to carry the burden on my shoulders for their own wrongdoing. No thank you very much. I had COVID and my body fought it off in no time and I feel great. Other people have got their own immune system to deal with it. It's none of my business after all, like I was told.

myvoiceismypass 6y ago

Wait what? “I also stopped worrying about COVID and wearing masks and keeping social distance. If humans are weak and die from a begnin virus then it's part of the circle of life. Keeping everyone alive through unsustainable measures only harms our planet due to over population and further exploitation.” Benign?

ajkdhcb2 6y ago
Yes, humans in previous generations wouldn't even bat an eyelid at the death rates. it wasn't long ago that people used to willingly go on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way
- devit 6y ago
  > on boat journeys even though 10% of the passengers would typically die on the way Source? Seems highly implausible (in general).
  - dredmorbius 6y ago
    The "middle passage" portion of the slave trade saw ~15% mortality, though that would have been high for non-slave passenger travel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Passage Deaths at sea definitely occurred. Credible accurate records don't seem to be available however, as this article's abstract notes: Farley Grubb, "Morbidity and Mortality on the North Atlantic Passage: Eighteenth-Century German Immigration" (1987). https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611 https://www.jstor.org/stable/204611
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
    Yeah, the only kind of boat where that was probably true was the kind where the majority of "passengers" definitely weren't going willingly.
  - inglor_cz 6y ago
    "Coffin ships" that carried the Irish fleeing the potato famine to America were notorious for their death rate and generally bad conditions. Of course, this was an already weakened population of passengers.
tremon 6y ago
COVID-19 really is a benign virus, as far a viruses go. I don't agree with the rest of that statement, but its effects on people infected are absolutely mild when compared to some other viruses: Polio, HIV and Ebola have much worse effects. Other viruses that we control for with vaccination regularly have much more severe long-term effects than we now know from COVID, like causing birth defects (Rubella), deafness (Mumps), immunocompromization (Measles) or cancer (HPV).

oulu2006 6y ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted, my guess is the reference to COVID. The earth is currently overpopulated for the system we have in-place to feed it. We are very inefficient in resource usage and waste over 1/2 the food we produce each year. COVID isn't the answer to this problem, but your point is valid.

imtringued 6y ago
It's definitively the reference to COVID. Telling people to die from a preventable cause is conflicting with the rest of the message.
- kortex 6y ago
  I mean if your message is "too many humans are bad for the planet, so if I die of Covid, so be it" at least it's mostly consistent. The part I object to is the lack of masks leading to spreading CoV2 to those who haven't volunteered to get out of the gene pool.
  - foxdev 6y ago
    I adapted an old saying for the new reality: "Your right to risk your life stops at my respiratory system."
  - dustinmoris 6y ago
    Do you know anyone who died because they volunteered? Besides that, when I was 10 years old and I asked at that time 30-40 year old people to not smoke cigarettes indoors because the passive smoking was damaging my young lungs and can lead to severe cancer and early death I was told that this is none of my business. Those people voluneered to damange their own health and knowingly also damanged my and other children's health. Now the same people are in their advanced age and demand from me to wear a mask because they don't want to bear the consequences of their earlier decisions. They essentially harmed themselves, and now they want to harm me again so that I have to carry the burden on my shoulders for their own wrongdoing. No thank you very much. I had COVID and my body fought it off in no time and I feel great. Other people have got their own immune system to deal with it. It's none of my business after all, like I was told.