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This seems like a reasonable point, until you note that Apple explicitly forbids their manufacturers from selling genuine batteries to anyone. If the issue was

by cyphar 6y ago

This seems like a reasonable point, until you note that Apple explicitly forbids their manufacturers from selling genuine batteries to anyone. If the issue was simply that Apple didn't want their brand to be tarnished due to low quality third party batteries, they could do what Samsung does and provide public access to their manufacturers so anyone can buy genuine parts.

valuearb 6y ago
This is a legit complaint, but none else is. Apple makes better products for their customers by using glue and integrated batteries. Right to repair should exist, but not at the expense of forcing design changes.
- canofbars 6y ago
  The glue does not make better products. For ages macbooks used a plastic bracket to hold the battery down but now they use glue thats insanely hard to remove. The Dell XPS is a great example of why this is not needed, the battery is still fixed in place with screws and a bracket and the ram is removable while the laptop is slightly thinner than a macbook pro.
  - selectodude 6y ago
    The 15" MacBook Pro went from a 50 watt-hour removable battery to a 77.5 watt-hour plastic bracket battery to a 99.5 watt-hour glued in battery (in a thinner chassis). Dell is putting an 86 watt-hour battery in their current XPS 15. You may not like what Apple is getting out of gluing in their fragile batteries but I certainly appreciate getting as much battery that can be crammed into the laptop using any means necessary in lieu of having an easier time swapping the battery once every three years (which Apple will do for me for basically the cost of a new battery).
  - valuearb 6y ago
    I’ve dropped so many MacBooks and never had one break. I’m betting that super hard to remove glue has something to do with it.
    - imtringued 6y ago
      It probably has more to do with the move to SSDs and their aluminum chassis. Other than physical destruction of the case and screen there is not much that can go wrong with a dropped laptop.

by cyphar 6y ago

valuearb 6y ago

This is a legit complaint, but none else is. Apple makes better products for their customers by using glue and integrated batteries. Right to repair should exist, but not at the expense of forcing design changes.

canofbars 6y ago
The glue does not make better products. For ages macbooks used a plastic bracket to hold the battery down but now they use glue thats insanely hard to remove. The Dell XPS is a great example of why this is not needed, the battery is still fixed in place with screws and a bracket and the ram is removable while the laptop is slightly thinner than a macbook pro.
- selectodude 6y ago
  The 15" MacBook Pro went from a 50 watt-hour removable battery to a 77.5 watt-hour plastic bracket battery to a 99.5 watt-hour glued in battery (in a thinner chassis). Dell is putting an 86 watt-hour battery in their current XPS 15. You may not like what Apple is getting out of gluing in their fragile batteries but I certainly appreciate getting as much battery that can be crammed into the laptop using any means necessary in lieu of having an easier time swapping the battery once every three years (which Apple will do for me for basically the cost of a new battery).
- valuearb 6y ago
  I’ve dropped so many MacBooks and never had one break. I’m betting that super hard to remove glue has something to do with it.
  - imtringued 6y ago
    It probably has more to do with the move to SSDs and their aluminum chassis. Other than physical destruction of the case and screen there is not much that can go wrong with a dropped laptop.