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Getting paid not to use Facebook
- husamia 6y agoHow to sign up?
- takeda 6y agoFrom the image looks like the URL is https://2020erp.norc.org/ https://2020erp.norc.org/ but you need a PIN to proceed, so looks like it is invite-only.
- loosescrews 6y agoInterestingly enough, Facebook itself is listed as a partner.
- cricket62 6y ago920071579
- cricket62 6y ago920-071-579
- kennywinker 6y agoNow I'm doing the thought experiment "how much would they have to pay me to get back ON facebook"
- SMAAART 6y agohttps://i.imgur.com/veQMOdI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/veQMOdI.jpg
- tempodox 6y agoIronically, if you submit the form the data gets sent to Facebook, among others.
- sriku 6y agoIf they genuinely ran this experiment without a time bound, I'd easily have at least $3k by now.
- spcebar 6y agoI too received this message, but I didn't join the study. I'm concerned with how the results of the study will be used.
- takeda 6y agoAs I understand the study is measuring whether you can or cannot last 6 weeks without Facebook, or am I missing something? I known some people that I'm curious if they could survive that.
- garraeth 6y agoThe second image refers to the election several times so it makes me wonder if they are trying to see if FB has an effect on how you vote...pure speculation on my part based on their text, of course.
- SahAssar 6y agoThat would require them to record your vote which would probably be illegal.
- TylerE 6y agoWHO you vote for is not public information. THAT you voted, including in any (and if so which) primary, is.
- SahAssar 6y agoRight, that'd still be an interesting study.
- ineedasername 6y agoThey can ask you how you voted. Exit polls do it all of the time. This announcement mentions a survey as well.
- abathur 6y agoTBH I feel like I already get paid--temporally and emotionally--for staying away. I suspect this would be a little like the cobra bounty?
- aaron695 6y agoThe cobra bounty might be a small tool to have in your head, but you cant just bring it out an bang away. I'm not even sure it's a useful tool. All over the world today people get rewarded for pest bounties, they work. I would like to know if cobra deaths went up or down due the cobra bounty. People take to much glee in things failing, I'm not sure the story is trustworthy.
- rossdavidh 6y agoI am reminded of the Marx Brothers joke about getting paid more to not play music than to play. "How much to also have you not practice?" "You can't afford it."
- madprops 6y agoAddiction test? Checking to see what users most miss after a while?
- runawaybottle 6y agoEmotional health test obvi.
- msftie 6y agoWhat an interesting idea. It's like an anti-advertisement. I can easily imagine how this could be replicated as a political campaign (and this does appear to be political -- why else end after Nov 3 election?). I wonder how the economics (or outcomes) work out paying targeted, undecided, persuadable, but likely voters in key states to withdraw from the advertising blitz of the opponent, as opposed to continuing to compete for ads.
- crystalmeph 6y ago> Facebook says it will select scientific samples of Americans to participate in the study that will reflect the diversity of the nation’s adult population as well as Facebook and Instagram’s users. [0] The timing on this seems really suspect. Will they release any sort of information on the breakdown of people that were offered / accepted a spot in this study, particularly their political leanings? It’s pretty well accepted that the workforce in Silicon Valley leans a particular way politically. The suspicion will be that Facebook is encouraging those who lean the other way to mute themselves. [0] https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/facebook-users-will-be-paid-to-ditch-their-accounts-for-election-study/ https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/facebook-users-will-be-paid-to...
- TylerE 6y agoThe group running this is extremely reputable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORC_at_the_University_of_Chicago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORC_at_the_University_of_Chic...
- coeneedell 6y agoI'm a UChicago student studying computational social science. I have a couple friends working at the NORC and I can say that, as someone who spends every day reading and criticizing studies done over the internet or with machine learning, the NORC always amazes me with their quality. Every time I get frustrated with some vaguely racist/dehumanizing social science paper I go read whatever is on NORC's home page to calm down.
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- ab3rC1te 6y agoI closed my Facebook account in 2009 and stopped using all social media accounts since then. So I couldn't be eligible for being paid to deactivate an account that doesn't exist, but I wouldn't want to be paid to have account period. Countless hours of peoples life are wasted scrolling through feeds that amount to a pile of dirt sitting in your yard.
- dane-pgp 6y ago> stopped using all social media accounts I keep wondering how I should describe this site to people, without using the term "anti-social media"...
- bobthepanda 6y agoThese things were called forums before social media was a term. It is kind of a forum around aggregated articles.
- serf 6y agoThis seems to fit better. HN is even on the list. [0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_news https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_news
- thetechimist 6y agoA forum is not anything like social media. People think that any internet site where UGC is posible is social media? Not. HN, for instance, is not based on finding friends, creating glamorous profiles, posting daily and weekly updates about one’s life, or reading other’s posts. It has no images, hashtags, auto playing videos, or your cousin and high school sweetheart arguing in the comments of your post about your luncheon at the Hilton if you should be even at the Hilton because of your or their political views. No, HN is just a topical forum. The only shadow of social media on it is when people post links to YouTube, which I don’t get or understand why it’s allowed. Why not post all the links to YouTube every day? If O wanted to watch videos about Perl, I’d go to YouTube.
- emit_time 6y agoI still have a facebook but I rarely check it now. The only reason I use it usually is for facebook messenger (I use the app, without checking facebook), and I find facebook marketplace to often have a decent selection of goods, seemingly better than craigslist now for some items. Note however, I'm pretty young, just turned 24.
- mkoryak 6y agoCould this be targeted towards influencers who someone wants to shut up?
- mdoms 6y agoHow many influencers can be convinced to give up a huge chunk of their income in exchange for $150?
- loosescrews 6y agoMaybe they are also going to write a piece about what it was like to give up Facebook?
- burfog 6y agoNot every influencer is making income that way. Facebook is surely able to identify people with significant influence who aren't all that famous and who don't make any money off of it. Approximately, take the top 2% but excluding the top 0.01% to get these users. Together they have huge influence, but mostly they aren't well-known. Their absence would have a huge impact but might not be noticed by an outside observer.
- mdoms 6y agoIf you're "not all that famous" then by definition you're not an influencer.
- burfog 6y agoYou can be, to a degree. There is a long tail. Targeting the top influencers would be too obvious. There are a lot of minor influencers that add up to quite a lot, being in total very important. Facebook knows who they are.
- ineedasername 6y agoThere are any number of things I'd be very happy to be paid for not using. Even very small sums of money for each one would make me a very rich man. I would fully support over-funded startups deciding to burn their money more directly by simply giving it to me.
- coeneedell 6y agoI wonder what the study is. I'm currently a grad student at UChicago, and although I work in a computational psychology lab, I have a few friends at NORC, and they're masters of side loading survey questions like this. I can guess this though: the amount you're willing to get paid is most certainly not the response variable. Even though they say "this won't effect your payment" I'm guessing what they're going to do is offer you some random amount of money, and then compare your response to this data. I'll have to keep an eye on NORC's website c. October.
- SenorTibbs 6y agoJust as an aside - what kind of data do you look at for computational psychology?
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- JoshMcguigan 6y agoI could see this data being used by Facebook to argue that they are providing $n per week of value to each user, based on that being the price users demand in exchange for not using Facebook. Of course loss aversion being what it is, humans will ask for more money in exchange for losing access to something than they ever would have paid to gain access to that thing.
- andykx 6y agoIs it just me or does it really boil down to the simple fact that the vast majority of people are likely to choose the largest amount of money? If I thought I was going to get paid for doing practically anything, even if it was a small chance, and I was presented with similar options, of course I would choose the largest amount. This is especially true of doing something as easy as not using Facebook. As an aside, I haven’t used Facebook in years and I haven’t used any other mainstream social sites in months. I don’t really miss them. I wish I could ditch LinkedIn, but it’s proven to be a valuable job search tool more than once and frankly, the recruiter messages keep my mood up to some degree.
- goodside 6y agoThis is likely why they say the option you choose will not impact how much money you are given. If you choose $50/week, and are then offered $5/week and take it, they know you were overestimating. The study wants to learn empirically the relationship between perceived and actual willingness to abstain from Facebook at various price points.
- Joeri 6y agoOffering options anchors the range. Most people will choose the middle of the range, because choosing the low end makes you look foolish, and choosing the high end makes you look greedy. The choice they make has very little to do with the actual value they would accept, more with how they think they will be perceived. The correct way to do it is to just offer an input field, not a multiple choice, because then there is no anchoring.
- egfx 6y agoI believe this to be part of a move toward Facebook becoming a subscription service. Something they should have been from the very beginning.
- crakhamster01 6y agohttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-elections/facebook-partners-with-external-researchers-to-study-its-impact-during-u-s-election-idUSKBN25R301 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-elections/facebo... > Facebook Inc said on Monday it is partnering with external researchers to examine the impact of the social media site on society during the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The initiative expands on its Social Science One project with academics who study political impacts of social media. A group of 17 independent researchers from the fields of elections, democracy and social media will now work with internal Facebook data scientists to design the studies. The company expects between 200,000 and 400,000 users to opt into the project, which will log what they see and how they behave on Facebook and Instagram.
- waihtis 6y ago> The company expects between 200,000 and 400,000 users to opt into the project, which will log what they see and how they behave on Facebook and Instagram. > It will introduce targeted changes to some participants’ experiences, such as advertising or types of posts shown to them. This doesn't seem to match the image posted here.
- crakhamster01 6y agoThanks for the call out. That Reuters article was referencing the broader project that the opt-in survey is a part of. More details about the specific researchers and their motivations can be seen in the FAQ of the official post: https://about.fb.com/news/2020/08/research-impact-of-facebook-and-instagram-on-us-election/ https://about.fb.com/news/2020/08/research-impact-of-faceboo...
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 6y agoIf Purdue Pharma said it was "partnering with external researchers to examine the impact of opiods on society" would you take the "research" seriously?
- irrational 6y agoHow do I actually sign up? I created an account (with fake information) years ago for something that requires a Facebook account. It has been 5-10 years since I last visited it. I assume it is still active. I’d happily continue not using it for money.
- goodside 6y agoYou can’t sign up. They don’t have enough money to pay every willing volunteer, so they ask for volunteers only from a randomized sample to infer what would happen if everyone received this offer.
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- waihtis 6y agoAnyone else think this is going to be grade-A fodder for the Trump machinery? - Facebook has largely been the go-to social media platform for his supporter base - They are paying users to deactivate their facebook accounts for the election period AND - It is not disclosed at all who they are targeting & results won't be available way until mid next year
- hardsoftnfloppy 6y agothe meta data they have to collect in order to pay you is worth more than the $20
- wdr1 6y agoFWIW, the study is being conducted by the NORC at the University of Chicago, a fairly well respected body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORC_at_the_University_of_Chicago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORC_at_the_University_of_Chic...