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The federal government doesn't promote the covid fear only because of which party is in power right now. One of the presidential candidates promises a nationwid

by hkai 6y ago

The federal government doesn't promote the covid fear only because of which party is in power right now. One of the presidential candidates promises a nationwide mask mandate, and, judging from the actions of authorities in NYC or other places, there will be other severe restrictions on freedom of business, assembly and travel. So yes, I also tend to agree that many people will continue supporting the health theater and fears for the foreseeable future.

specialist 6y ago
What plan do you favor for ending the pandemic?
- hkai 6y ago
  Unless the IFR of covid is shown to be significantly higher than other common diseases that we accept and don't fight by locking down cities, it doesn't seem that any major, world-shattering intervention is needed. Please wash your hands for 20 seconds though, and don't come to the office if you're sick.
take_a_breath 6y ago
This isn’t proof that those measures will stay in place after the pandemic subsides, as they have for travel. Since you brought up political parties, it’s worth noting that the party who lead that round of fear is the one in power.
adventured 6y ago
> One of the presidential candidates promises a nationwide mask mandate Fearing polls, Biden has run away from his position (made multiple times on record) of a national mask requirement. The other day he lied and said he never said it in the first place, claimed he's a constitutionalist and wouldn't seek a mask requirement because of that. This was all on video. So who knows what to believe from these clowns.
hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
I fail to see how this is "health theater", especially mask mandates, which show high effectiveness and relatively low imposition on personal freedoms, considering the pandemic is currently ongoing.
- whiddershins 6y ago
  Citation needed. Where are deaths increasing?
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - whiddershins 6y ago
    I’ll answer my own question: India. India is a big country and deaths are going up there. The US and Europe seem past it to me.
  - maxfurman 6y ago
    Here in Philadelphia, cases and deaths are both spiking. Not as bad yet as the peak from April but the pandemic certainly is not past us.
    - whiddershins 6y ago
      I just looked it up and there were 4 deaths in all of Pennsylvania yesterday.
- tasogare 6y ago
  The pandemic has stopped. Sure, there are more and more infected people, yet the hospital admissions are stale. It’s really hard to understand why governments that first reacted like there was no problem when the situation emerged and the virus was totally unknown are now acting like it’s a deadly threat when the data clearly shows it’s only a real issue in aged population. Sure taking precautions is good, imposing authoritarian sanitary rules is not. At least in France the situation is clearly being used to control opposition, which was strong before the pandemic since the government tried to push a lot of economic reforms. Now, the economy was purposely destroyed there, so harsher reforms will be imposed and people will be really angry when they’ll discover the lockdown was not needed (for the record, I live in Japan where there was no lockdown and things went totally fine). The sanitary rules will be used to control those revolts too. The fact it is a political only move was made super clear when the government allowed huge demonstrations that mimicried BLM in June.

by hkai 6y ago

specialist 6y ago

What plan do you favor for ending the pandemic?

hkai 6y ago
Unless the IFR of covid is shown to be significantly higher than other common diseases that we accept and don't fight by locking down cities, it doesn't seem that any major, world-shattering intervention is needed. Please wash your hands for 20 seconds though, and don't come to the office if you're sick.

take_a_breath 6y ago

This isn’t proof that those measures will stay in place after the pandemic subsides, as they have for travel. Since you brought up political parties, it’s worth noting that the party who lead that round of fear is the one in power.

adventured 6y ago

> One of the presidential candidates promises a nationwide mask mandate Fearing polls, Biden has run away from his position (made multiple times on record) of a national mask requirement. The other day he lied and said he never said it in the first place, claimed he's a constitutionalist and wouldn't seek a mask requirement because of that. This was all on video. So who knows what to believe from these clowns.

hn_throwaway_99 6y ago

I fail to see how this is "health theater", especially mask mandates, which show high effectiveness and relatively low imposition on personal freedoms, considering the pandemic is currently ongoing.

whiddershins 6y ago
Citation needed. Where are deaths increasing?
- deleted 6y ago
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- whiddershins 6y ago
  I’ll answer my own question: India. India is a big country and deaths are going up there. The US and Europe seem past it to me.
- maxfurman 6y ago
  Here in Philadelphia, cases and deaths are both spiking. Not as bad yet as the peak from April but the pandemic certainly is not past us.
  - whiddershins 6y ago
    I just looked it up and there were 4 deaths in all of Pennsylvania yesterday.
tasogare 6y ago
The pandemic has stopped. Sure, there are more and more infected people, yet the hospital admissions are stale. It’s really hard to understand why governments that first reacted like there was no problem when the situation emerged and the virus was totally unknown are now acting like it’s a deadly threat when the data clearly shows it’s only a real issue in aged population. Sure taking precautions is good, imposing authoritarian sanitary rules is not. At least in France the situation is clearly being used to control opposition, which was strong before the pandemic since the government tried to push a lot of economic reforms. Now, the economy was purposely destroyed there, so harsher reforms will be imposed and people will be really angry when they’ll discover the lockdown was not needed (for the record, I live in Japan where there was no lockdown and things went totally fine). The sanitary rules will be used to control those revolts too. The fact it is a political only move was made super clear when the government allowed huge demonstrations that mimicried BLM in June.