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Winamp was so slick. Lightweight, did one thing very well. A modern version would probably be built on Electron, be a 500Mb download & require 8Gb RAM to just
by trollied 6y ago
Winamp was so slick. Lightweight, did one thing very well.
A modern version would probably be built on Electron, be a 500Mb download & require 8Gb RAM to just run (12Gb required if you want to change the skin).
I long for the days where things weren't so bloated.
- mmcwilliams 6y agoYou can still run Winamp. I run it using WINE on Ubuntu.
- jeremija 6y agoI just run audacious when I feel nostalgic - it has support for old Winamp v2 skins. Most of the time i just use cmus though.
- poisonarena 6y agoI run it native on my Windows 10 laptop
- senorjazz 6y agoI still use winamp, with classic skin. It's small out the way, I can simply drag the files in I want to play. Not want any more than that for a music player IMO
- devindotcom 6y agoMe too. Nucleo_nlog skin though.
- bluedays 6y agoElectron hate is starting to become such a meme lately.
- Karunamon 6y agoMany would argue that Electron itself is a meme. An unfunny one that gets repeated at the user’s expense ad nauseam.
- azinman2 6y agoIsn’t VSCode electron? Somehow Microsoft ended up with an electron app that doesn’t have all the hallmarks of what people complain about. What was done differently?
- Karunamon 6y agoProbably as something made for developers, it was created to be fast and efficient and avoid sucking down inordinate amounts of resources. Rather than the usual reason electron apps get made, which is because they’re “easy” and allow web-first devs to put out acceptable-quality desktop apps with no mind paid to those same concerns. It is entirely possible to release good software with electron. It is also entirely possible to win the lottery. (Bitter and annoyed? Me?)
- Narishma 6y ago> Probably as something made for developers, it was created to be fast and efficient and avoid sucking down inordinate amounts of resources. That's not a given. Just look at the bloated monstrosity that is Visual Studio.
- reaperducer 6y agoOne of the biggest things people complain about with Electron apps is their slowness. When I started using VSCode, it was perfectly snappy and I could see what people were talking about when they said, "But VSCode is Electron, and it's fine — it's just crappy developers." After about six months of using it and loading in fewer than ten extensions, it has become very laggy. To the point that I have had to train myself to pause my typing after I press certain key combinations while the system catches up. VSCode is great, but it's not a poster child for Electron.
- potta_coffee 6y agoIt just runs contrary to a lot of people's ideals for software. I don't spend my time thinking about Electron much but I don't care for it either. I guess it just rankles that it's really the easiest cross-platform solution we have.
- bluedays 6y agoJust feels like a cheap way to get Internet karma to compare old apps to modern apps made with Electron.
- mosselman 6y agoSo it’s cheap to say that old-Winamp does the same with let’s say 1-10% of the resources that a remake in electron does? How so? Isn’t it interesting from a historical perspective? Can’t we learn from history? If anything history could be an anchor point for where we can go back to or it can tell us that if we just try harder we can achieve more. How is that cheap? If anything it is powerful to keep reminding ourselves that we can do better as an industry and that we shouldn’t settle for mediocrity.
- bluedays 6y agoIt's interesting until you see the 10th comment comparing some old software against Electron. Then it comes meme-y.
- reaperducer 6y agoElectron hate is starting to become such a meme lately. I used to think the same thing until a couple of weeks ago when an Electron app crashed and took down every other Electron app on my computer. I thought these things were supposed to be sandboxed.
- agumonkey 6y agodon't look a processor l1 cache, enough to fit windows 95
- jodrellblank 6y agoWhat does computer response time look like when you fit your OS in L1 cache?
- captbaritone 6y agoJust to trigger you, we did that :P https://desktop.webamp.org/ https://desktop.webamp.org/ It was just an experiment to see if it would work, but if you want something to hate-download check it out :P
- trishankdatadog 6y agoLMAO, funniest thread all day
- trollied 6y agoYou have won the internet for the day!
- corysama 6y agoSo, 50MB installer. How much RAM does it require? Can it actually play MP3's in real time on my Pentium 60? ;)
- rglover 6y agoI mean this in the most endearing way possible...YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD kiss! I've been looking for this forever. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
- ivolimmen 6y agoYou just earned an upvote
- Erlich_Bachman 6y agoDidn't you notice that the link in the post itself goes to the same website? :p The skins from the museum are hosted on and implemented on Webamp.
- Sebguer 6y agoThe person you are replying to is literally the creator of the website, so I expect they know that. They were pointing out that there is explicitly a desktop version. :P
- pks016 6y agoI use AIMP. It's great. One big plus for me: It can play my Youtube playlist.
- themodelplumber 6y agoAIMP looks neat, is there a Linux version? On Linux I like QMMP so far, and use WinAMP skins with it. It opens videos in a standalone window, but I can't say I really use it as a video player.
- anthk 6y agoxmms, audacious. For videos, SMplayer is nice.
- vb6sp6 6y agoThe modern version is foobar2000 which is 1.8mb exe and uses a few mb of ram. It loads and runs instantly.
- mikewhy 6y agofb2k always seemed so cool, and I used it for a while during the bad years of winamp, but it definitely had that "useless by default" feel to me. Like it's cool that you can map global hotkeys, can you please default to supporting my keyboards quite standard media keys.
- sleepyshift 6y ago+1 for fb2k, currently using 13MB RAM to play an MP3 with my collection of ~50K tracks loaded in the background.
- userbinator 6y agoAn MP3 decoder is actually relatively tiny: https://github.com/lieff/minimp3 https://github.com/lieff/minimp3 shows that it can be done in ~30KB of code. It's everything else around the player, such as the UI, that takes up the bulk of the size.
- blhack 6y agoWell yeah, what kind of garbage MP3 playing software wouldn't have a built in app store, social integrations, a pro version that removes ads, and its own mail client?