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You're assuming that the goal is to make something valuable. There are forums with more traffic than this, which don't make money. They're hobby projects.
by benhurmarcel 6y ago
You're assuming that the goal is to make something valuable.
There are forums with more traffic than this, which don't make money. They're hobby projects.
- golergka 6y agoMaking something valuable is not the same as making money. May be you just want to feel that you're doing something good for the community. However, money is the universal way to measure value. And if you think that you create an enormous value for the community, and it's something that is important to you personally, paying a few hundred bucks a month for it should be a no-brainer.
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoYou mean like how repairing roads should be a no brainer, but no-one wants to pay for it?
- golergka 6y agoEven here in Russia, which is famous for its awful roads, there's plenty of private roads, both closed to public, and operated for-profit with toll booths that are in great condition. Tragedy of the commons doesn't happen when things actually belong to someone.
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoIf I had a penny for every time people write blanket statements of this nature, id be a wealthy man. The list of privatised institutions that perform worse than their publically owned equivalents nations is very long. Passenger rail in US and UK is privately owned and terrible compared to French and Spanish. US broadband is quite poor. US healthcare is much worse value. Private prisons - I dont even know what they were thinking. One must carefully access if market-based solution for a given problem is suitable, or if the potential for abuse and natural monopoly just too great.
- valuearb 6y agoAmtrak is owned by the US government. US broadband is run by local monopolies established by government action. US Healthcare is heavily regulated, and grew massively expensive only after regulations were added, and preconditions were excluded. All US prisons have problems. You have any real examples?
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago> Amtrak is owned by the US government. Irrelevant. The actual railroads are private, and Amtrak gets shafted. Look at the state of US passenger railways, and compare them to trains in France or Spain. All countries with successful passenger rail have them public. You will find find same pattern for all examples given.
- valuearb 6y agoSo your only example of the ills of privatization, is a company that wasn’t ever really privatized?
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoI can't help you if you intentionally misconstrue everything I write. If you wish to continue believing that privatisation can never have negative results, please do. But even a casual reading of history or economics will demonstrate that's wrong.
- valuearb 6y agoI’ve done far more than a casual reading of economics, and since you can’t provide a single example of the ills of privatization I suspect your reading barely reached casual levels.
- ClumsyPilot 6y agoIf you are going to taunt me, put in some effort and bring something to the table. Present your point of view and contribute to the conversation instead of just criticising and nitpicking. You are just asking me to google things for you. With your great knowledge of economics I am sure you can summarise the history of privatisation far better than I ever could, so please share your wisdom with us.
- srtjstjsj 6y agoPeople do volunteer time and materials for guerilla road repair.