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Yeah, this is crazy: Settings -> Privacy -> Location Services -> (ALL the way to the bottom of the list, past all apps) System Services -> Location-Based Apple

Yeah, this is crazy: Settings -> Privacy -> Location Services -> (ALL the way to the bottom of the list, past all apps) System Services -> Location-Based Apple Ads. Oh, and if you have text size increased by any amount, “Ads” doesn’t even appear and it’s just “Location-Based Apple...” (on or off). The harder something is to find and disable, the shadier it seems.

millstone 6y ago
Gross! Just to feed App Store and Apple News? Apple should kill that immediately, it's hypocritical.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  Unfortunately, most large corporations are relatively immune to hypocrisy.
  - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
    It's not hypocrisy they're immune from, it's consequences.
lilyball 6y ago
I don't see "Location-Based Apple Ads" on my iPhone running iOS 14.
- agency 6y ago
  It's there for me on iOS 13.7: https://imgur.com/gJyId5P https://imgur.com/gJyId5P It was on by default - I toggled it off.
  - dogma1138 6y ago
    It is off by default.
    - codnee 6y ago
      It was on by default for me as well
    - windexh8er 6y ago
      It's not off by default. I just reset an iPhone to check on 13.7. It's on by default.
      - hu3 6y ago
        Users have to manually "Opt out" as per Apple's own documentation: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 or https://web.archive.org/web/20200903215036/https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://web.archive.org/web/20200903215036/https://support.a...
    - grumple 6y ago
      On for me too. Nobody in their right mind would turn this on.
- __warlord__ 6y ago
  Settings -> Privacy -> Apple Advertising (all the way down) > Personalized Ads
strogonoff 6y ago
I don’t have such a problem providing targeting data to Apple as I have to third parties. Frankly I can’t see myself letting an ecosystem become an integral part of my life if I do not trust the company behind it.
rayuela 6y ago
Holy hell that's shady as fuck. I would have never found that and I've gone out of my way to disable as much of this type of shit on my phone as possible. There's no way in hell the average user is ever going to stumble upon that setting.
rosege 6y ago
Apple definitely does shady stuff. Sure on privacy they are the better option, usually. But don't forget it recently came out that Siri was sending recordings to be analysed without the users knowledge. They also will only very begrudgingly fix design faults in their products. I recently was a victim of their flexgate issue and because I have the 15" MacBook Pro it isn't automatically covered. Other users with this issue are fighting Apple in a class action over it. You would hope that a company that makes as much money as Apple would stand behind their products better but unfortunately that's not the case.
- deleted 6y ago
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- goblin89 6y ago
  That Siri sends recordings to humans for analysis without user consent is a myth. I went through a screen pointing out this is exactly what will happen, and buttons to opt in or out, during initial OS setup. This was a while ago, before iOS 14. The myth is likely perpetuated by people who do not use Apple devices.
  - Nextgrid 6y ago
    That change was mode after the whole thing blew up last year. It used to be that this feature was enabled by default, with no way to opt-out and was not clearly disclosed to the user.
    - goblin89 6y ago
      I don’t remember that time, for as long as Siri existed I always recall there being a way to prevent my phone from auto-reacting to words (which I hate) during OS setup. Maybe I am mistaken.
  - rosege 6y ago
    I was going off this article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/14/apple-siri-secret-surveillance-campaign-investigation https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/14/apple-... A former contractor who worked for Apple in Ireland told EU regulators that he heard highly personal conversations as part of a project that transcribed portions of Siri recordings to improve the feature’s voice recognition. Apple apologized after the infractions were revealed and said it had suspended the project while it implemented better practices.
cwhiz 6y ago
Fixed in iOS 14, at least.

millstone 6y ago

Gross! Just to feed App Store and Apple News? Apple should kill that immediately, it's hypocritical.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
Unfortunately, most large corporations are relatively immune to hypocrisy.
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  It's not hypocrisy they're immune from, it's consequences.

lilyball 6y ago

I don't see "Location-Based Apple Ads" on my iPhone running iOS 14.

agency 6y ago
It's there for me on iOS 13.7: https://imgur.com/gJyId5P https://imgur.com/gJyId5P It was on by default - I toggled it off.
- dogma1138 6y ago
  It is off by default.
  - codnee 6y ago
    It was on by default for me as well
  - windexh8er 6y ago
    It's not off by default. I just reset an iPhone to check on 13.7. It's on by default.
    - hu3 6y ago
      Users have to manually "Opt out" as per Apple's own documentation: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 or https://web.archive.org/web/20200903215036/https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074 https://web.archive.org/web/20200903215036/https://support.a...
  - grumple 6y ago
    On for me too. Nobody in their right mind would turn this on.
__warlord__ 6y ago
Settings -> Privacy -> Apple Advertising (all the way down) > Personalized Ads

strogonoff 6y ago

I don’t have such a problem providing targeting data to Apple as I have to third parties. Frankly I can’t see myself letting an ecosystem become an integral part of my life if I do not trust the company behind it.

rayuela 6y ago

Holy hell that's shady as fuck. I would have never found that and I've gone out of my way to disable as much of this type of shit on my phone as possible. There's no way in hell the average user is ever going to stumble upon that setting.

rosege 6y ago

Apple definitely does shady stuff. Sure on privacy they are the better option, usually. But don't forget it recently came out that Siri was sending recordings to be analysed without the users knowledge. They also will only very begrudgingly fix design faults in their products. I recently was a victim of their flexgate issue and because I have the 15" MacBook Pro it isn't automatically covered. Other users with this issue are fighting Apple in a class action over it. You would hope that a company that makes as much money as Apple would stand behind their products better but unfortunately that's not the case.

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goblin89 6y ago
That Siri sends recordings to humans for analysis without user consent is a myth. I went through a screen pointing out this is exactly what will happen, and buttons to opt in or out, during initial OS setup. This was a while ago, before iOS 14. The myth is likely perpetuated by people who do not use Apple devices.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  That change was mode after the whole thing blew up last year. It used to be that this feature was enabled by default, with no way to opt-out and was not clearly disclosed to the user.
  - goblin89 6y ago
    I don’t remember that time, for as long as Siri existed I always recall there being a way to prevent my phone from auto-reacting to words (which I hate) during OS setup. Maybe I am mistaken.
- rosege 6y ago
  I was going off this article: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/14/apple-siri-secret-surveillance-campaign-investigation https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/14/apple-... A former contractor who worked for Apple in Ireland told EU regulators that he heard highly personal conversations as part of a project that transcribed portions of Siri recordings to improve the feature’s voice recognition. Apple apologized after the infractions were revealed and said it had suspended the project while it implemented better practices.

cwhiz 6y ago

Fixed in iOS 14, at least.