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Ada is just a language. The 99.99% of the experience you've acquired there perfectly transfers to any other domain or language - only uneducated HR gatekeepers

by zerr 6y ago

Ada is just a language. The 99.99% of the experience you've acquired there perfectly transfers to any other domain or language - only uneducated HR gatekeepers won't recognize this.

elpatoisthebest 6y ago
Unfortunately in my experience that "only" represents a somewhat large percentage of HR or hiring managers.
- ithkuil 6y ago
  Then (after you make sure you learn enough of another language to not embarrass yourself) be a little bit creative in your resume/CV in order to pass that stupid filter.
  - ithkuil 6y ago
    (by which I don't suggest to lie, rather to make sure you mention you have some experience in popular language even if your primary job didn't use it. E.g. mentioning the side projects that made you learn C++ will let a recruiter tick that box)
    - Gene_Parmesan 6y ago
      I agree, I see nothing unethical about tailoring your various job-related communications to the type of person you're speaking with. Especially at large firms, HR employees are often quite literally just looking to check off boxes. Obviously you should not outright lie, but we engineering types have a tendency to take these sort of questions too literally. I use C# at work. I've programmed in Java here and there and have done some small projects in it, but we don't use it at my office. If I apply for a Java job, and the HR rep asks me during the 1st round phone screen if I have Java experience, I'm going to say yes. When I speak with a more technically minded person, I can go into the full story, because they have the background necessary to put it in context.
irjustin 6y ago
This comment feels more idealistic than realistic. Companies rarely want to pay for someone to learn on their dime unless there's a specific gain. It typically takes 3-6 months for an engineer to become truly effective and that's with domain knowledge transfer. Domain experience is valuable and allows speed to get up and running.
ticmasta 6y ago
one of the issues that does matter is how/where you are applying the language. Ada use is super niche so unless you're looking to stay in the same domain it does matter. As an educated, non-HR gatekeeper I do care about the context of your experience.

by zerr 6y ago

Ada is just a language. The 99.99% of the experience you've acquired there perfectly transfers to any other domain or language - only uneducated HR gatekeepers won't recognize this.

elpatoisthebest 6y ago

Unfortunately in my experience that "only" represents a somewhat large percentage of HR or hiring managers.

ithkuil 6y ago
Then (after you make sure you learn enough of another language to not embarrass yourself) be a little bit creative in your resume/CV in order to pass that stupid filter.
- ithkuil 6y ago
  (by which I don't suggest to lie, rather to make sure you mention you have some experience in popular language even if your primary job didn't use it. E.g. mentioning the side projects that made you learn C++ will let a recruiter tick that box)
  - Gene_Parmesan 6y ago
    I agree, I see nothing unethical about tailoring your various job-related communications to the type of person you're speaking with. Especially at large firms, HR employees are often quite literally just looking to check off boxes. Obviously you should not outright lie, but we engineering types have a tendency to take these sort of questions too literally. I use C# at work. I've programmed in Java here and there and have done some small projects in it, but we don't use it at my office. If I apply for a Java job, and the HR rep asks me during the 1st round phone screen if I have Java experience, I'm going to say yes. When I speak with a more technically minded person, I can go into the full story, because they have the background necessary to put it in context.

irjustin 6y ago

This comment feels more idealistic than realistic. Companies rarely want to pay for someone to learn on their dime unless there's a specific gain. It typically takes 3-6 months for an engineer to become truly effective and that's with domain knowledge transfer. Domain experience is valuable and allows speed to get up and running.

ticmasta 6y ago

one of the issues that does matter is how/where you are applying the language. Ada use is super niche so unless you're looking to stay in the same domain it does matter. As an educated, non-HR gatekeeper I do care about the context of your experience.