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This Medium article was written on March 10 [1]. "Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated i
by shubhamjain 6y ago
This Medium article was written on March 10 [1].
"Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff.[1] There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus."
[1]: https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-lesson-from-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-509151dc8065 https://medium.com/@ra.hobday/coronavirus-and-the-sun-a-less...
- raverbashing 6y agoYes but can it kill viruses and bacteria in vivo?
- Enginerrrd 6y agoIf it produces better outcomes in vivo, does it matter whether or not the proposed mechanism is correct?
- gh02t 6y agoIdeally you'd like to understand the mechanism so that you can isolate and optimize the the effect, as well as predict possible interactions/side effects.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y agoIdeally. In reality it rarely happens. And it's certainly not needed, the entire basis upon which evidence-based medicine is founded is that an effective intervention should be statistically measurable in it's effect regardless of our knowledge of the underlying mechanics.
- nradov 6y agoAytu BioScience is working on an ultraviolet device to kill viruses in vivo. Initial results look promising but it's too early to say whether that would be an effective therapy. https://aytubio.com/healight/ https://aytubio.com/healight/
- Nuzzerino 6y agoThis one was also infamously censored by social media this year.
- WhompingWindows 6y agoBy "it" what are you referring to? Vitamin D may have modulatory effects on the biochemical pathways linked in the original article. Most pharmaceutical products we study aren't going to directly kill bacteria or viruses, usually they have a particular physical effect on a specific molecule that then leads, through various cellular pathways, to the death or suppression of the pathogen. I highly doubt Vitamin D directly kills anything, it could modulate symptoms or the pathophysiology of COVID-19 the disease, vs. SARS-COV-2 the virus itself. If "it" means UV light, yes there are UV sterilizers aplenty today. If "it" means outdoors/fresh air, there are a lot of components to that and it's not like "fresh air" enters "in vivo" per se.
- raverbashing 6y agoI mean UV light/being outdoors Yes, I'm aware of UV sterilizer, but does it work when the microorganisms are inside you? You don't want to get an "internal tan"
- kovek 6y agoThat air is a natural disinfectant is super interesting. I read that vitamin D and observed benefits for those who have vitamin D is a correlation. Meaning that taking vitamin D supplements might not be as helpful as getting sunlight (a natural way to get vitamin D)
- jmvoodoo 6y agoWhat I found interesting about this article is that it isn't based on a correlation of outcomes and vitamin D like most other results are. It's actually looking at potential mechanisms and vitamin D is coming up as a candidate.
- mcguire 6y agoI don't know about air, but ultraviolet light is a pretty good disinfectant.
- trhway 6y agoozone too. And it goes inside your nose, throat, lungs.
- robbyt 6y agoI'm still waiting for the results from that whole bleach in the lungs idea Trump had. Hoping that will be the cure for all of this.
- wirrbel 6y agobut patients don't disinfect from the inside when exposed to outdoor air...
- pmiller2 6y agoI would guess "air as disinfectant" is primarily because of its oxygen content. O_2 is actually a pretty nasty molecule like that. Oxidation is typically a fairly tough reaction to reverse or prevent.