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I feel adults have been unwilling to listen to the problems of teenagers forever in fact. Teenage years are a difficult age, and it's really remarkable how many

I feel adults have been unwilling to listen to the problems of teenagers forever in fact. Teenage years are a difficult age, and it's really remarkable how many people I know seem to think of teenagers as spoiled, indisciplined children who should just get their shit together.

LandR 6y ago
And its more incredible that they dont listen when you remember those adults were teenagers once too, and probably had very real issues that were ignored by their parents too!
- mschuster91 6y ago
  "We had to suffer through this too, so you can too, it makes you harder!!!"
  - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
    I think it's more 'as an adult I realise that what I faced as a teenager was not all it appeared to be'. Every cohort of teenagers since ancient times has believed, it seems, that their parents didn't understand. I think then one finds the ignorance was usually balanced in the other direction. Parents in general do want their offspring to grow to be self sufficient, which does require some pain - we're not going to be here forever to care for our kids - but most parents want their kids to get through their whole life with fulfillment and happiness. Sometimes that means a little hardship for a greater life overall. This I think accounts for parents, in general, seeming to be hard on teenagers. Those teenagers will either realise it was for good or initiate a revolution in how they treat their own teens. That revolution hasn't happened yet. My observation is that we go in cycles - parents are liberal, their children are more conservative (when they become parents), so their children respond by being more liberal, etc..
    - kenjackson 6y ago
      I don’t think we go in cycles. It seems that we continuously get more liberal. At some point we may hit a steady state where we cycle, but we haven’t so far.
      - mschuster91 6y ago
        What we are hitting is a continuous backlash of conservatives unhappy with progress... no matter if it's abortion, LGBT rights, PoC/non-white rights, or anti-discriminatory language. These paleo-conservatives are who elected Trump and they are correct in exactly one thing: there is a cultural war against their outdated views.
AlgorithmicTime 6y ago
Or, you know, when you grow up and mature, you realize the problems of teens are quite dumb and largely of their own making.

LandR 6y ago

And its more incredible that they dont listen when you remember those adults were teenagers once too, and probably had very real issues that were ignored by their parents too!

mschuster91 6y ago
"We had to suffer through this too, so you can too, it makes you harder!!!"
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  I think it's more 'as an adult I realise that what I faced as a teenager was not all it appeared to be'. Every cohort of teenagers since ancient times has believed, it seems, that their parents didn't understand. I think then one finds the ignorance was usually balanced in the other direction. Parents in general do want their offspring to grow to be self sufficient, which does require some pain - we're not going to be here forever to care for our kids - but most parents want their kids to get through their whole life with fulfillment and happiness. Sometimes that means a little hardship for a greater life overall. This I think accounts for parents, in general, seeming to be hard on teenagers. Those teenagers will either realise it was for good or initiate a revolution in how they treat their own teens. That revolution hasn't happened yet. My observation is that we go in cycles - parents are liberal, their children are more conservative (when they become parents), so their children respond by being more liberal, etc..
  - kenjackson 6y ago
    I don’t think we go in cycles. It seems that we continuously get more liberal. At some point we may hit a steady state where we cycle, but we haven’t so far.
    - mschuster91 6y ago
      What we are hitting is a continuous backlash of conservatives unhappy with progress... no matter if it's abortion, LGBT rights, PoC/non-white rights, or anti-discriminatory language. These paleo-conservatives are who elected Trump and they are correct in exactly one thing: there is a cultural war against their outdated views.

AlgorithmicTime 6y ago

Or, you know, when you grow up and mature, you realize the problems of teens are quite dumb and largely of their own making.