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That's basically what they said. There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate.

valuearb 6y ago
There are many, many more that are ethical.
chii 6y ago
> There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate such as? If you exclude illegal acts, i cannot think of what unethical, but high demand goods/services there are that are currently under-served. Gambling, prostitution and other such vices? All highly competitive.
- Swenrekcah 6y ago
  There are many. A lot of Pyramid/MLM schemes are legal but basically all unethical. The hologram bracelet and other similar 'products' are unethical. As for this article and OnlyFans. I don't see a problem with selling nudes (although some people might), but what I gives me pause is the analysis that the 'fans' think they're buying intimacy and friendship. If that is the case, this is highly unethical unless you actually provide some sort of a real human relationship (which of course would not scale very well).
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  Advertising? You make your money based on a few brands paying you big $$$ in exchange for you inconveniencing everyone else (who didn't ask for anything and often has no choice - very few platforms allow paying to opt-out of ads) by showing them ads.
- syshum 6y ago
  So do you derive your ethics from legality, i.e to you believe that if something is legal it is automatically ethical, and if something is illegal that is automatically unethical? For example I find Loot Boxes to be a highly predatory and unethical way of monetization in gaming yet they are legal, I also find it completely ethical for a person to grow a certain plant in their home garden but it is illegal...
  - chii 6y ago
    > So do you derive your ethics from legality yes, in some sense. when they differ, i would choose to make (or lobby for) what is unethical also illegal.
    - syshum 6y ago
      Wow, that is very authoritarian political view. I hope you do not have much success in making things your dislike illegal
      - chii 6y ago
        > in making things your dislike illegal dislike is very different from unethical. Dislike is my taste - other people could have different tastes. Unethical is defined by me as actions that "if everybody did it, society would collapse".
valuearb 6y ago
You can become wealthy simply through hard work and being frugal. There are a ton of fields where it’s easy to make a 6 figure income doing ethical legitimate work, and computer programming is a huge one. Save 50% of your salary for 20 years, invest at even a mediocre rate and you will be a multimillionaire and able to retire on a 6 figure income for the rest of your life. The difference between you the vast majority of the self made wealthy isn’t ethics, it’s drive, ambition, and the willingness to forgo luxuries.

valuearb 6y ago

There are many, many more that are ethical.

chii 6y ago

> There are tons of things people are willing to pay for that would also be unethical to facilitate such as? If you exclude illegal acts, i cannot think of what unethical, but high demand goods/services there are that are currently under-served. Gambling, prostitution and other such vices? All highly competitive.

Swenrekcah 6y ago
There are many. A lot of Pyramid/MLM schemes are legal but basically all unethical. The hologram bracelet and other similar 'products' are unethical. As for this article and OnlyFans. I don't see a problem with selling nudes (although some people might), but what I gives me pause is the analysis that the 'fans' think they're buying intimacy and friendship. If that is the case, this is highly unethical unless you actually provide some sort of a real human relationship (which of course would not scale very well).
Nextgrid 6y ago
Advertising? You make your money based on a few brands paying you big $$$ in exchange for you inconveniencing everyone else (who didn't ask for anything and often has no choice - very few platforms allow paying to opt-out of ads) by showing them ads.
syshum 6y ago
So do you derive your ethics from legality, i.e to you believe that if something is legal it is automatically ethical, and if something is illegal that is automatically unethical? For example I find Loot Boxes to be a highly predatory and unethical way of monetization in gaming yet they are legal, I also find it completely ethical for a person to grow a certain plant in their home garden but it is illegal...
- chii 6y ago
  > So do you derive your ethics from legality yes, in some sense. when they differ, i would choose to make (or lobby for) what is unethical also illegal.
  - syshum 6y ago
    Wow, that is very authoritarian political view. I hope you do not have much success in making things your dislike illegal
    - chii 6y ago
      > in making things your dislike illegal dislike is very different from unethical. Dislike is my taste - other people could have different tastes. Unethical is defined by me as actions that "if everybody did it, society would collapse".

valuearb 6y ago

You can become wealthy simply through hard work and being frugal. There are a ton of fields where it’s easy to make a 6 figure income doing ethical legitimate work, and computer programming is a huge one. Save 50% of your salary for 20 years, invest at even a mediocre rate and you will be a multimillionaire and able to retire on a 6 figure income for the rest of your life. The difference between you the vast majority of the self made wealthy isn’t ethics, it’s drive, ambition, and the willingness to forgo luxuries.