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Unions aren't anti-capitalist, they explicitly work within a capitalist framework to ensure better pay and working conditions for their workers. Unions deal in
by Frondo 6y ago
Unions aren't anti-capitalist, they explicitly work within a capitalist framework to ensure better pay and working conditions for their workers.
Unions deal in money and don't seek to change that, unions recognize and don't challenge ownership of the business.
What about them makes them anti-capitalist, except that they seek to shift the balance of "who, of all the people working on a business, gets paid what for the operation of a business"?
- sitkack 6y agoIn mature union relations, they also ensure the long term viability of the business. I knew someone through a friend that was kicked out of the carpenters union for not being good enough. Their accreditation can be quite strict.
- dantheman 6y agoI'd like to see where they're ensuring long term viability - every group they work with in the US is either facing a pension crisis or is not thriving.
- sitkack 6y agoThat is simply not true and a common anti-union trope. Unions should have mandatory representation on corporate boards. Broadcom would be my first choice.
- calcifer 6y ago> What about them makes them anti-capitalist They only exist because without them, capitalism and its advocates brutally oppress the workers, keeping them in a perpetual state of poverty. The fact that they are not literally trying to overthrow the regime doesn't mean they aren't anti-capitalist.
- hlandau 6y agoUnions are extortion rackets and price fixing cartels. As such, they are not only unethical in themselves and should be illegal, they constitute an attempt to obstruct capitalism. Amusingly, this hypocrisy is literally embedded in US antitrust law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/17 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/17 Literally "price fixing cartels are bad, except when they aren't".