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Yes, capitalism is awful, but it's by far the best idea we've got.

beeboop 6y ago
Please, go on and continue the propaganda about how socialism and communism doesn't work. Please point to failed nations/states that had communism and explain how they failed due to communism and that it definitely wasn't anything else.
- dforrestwilson 6y ago
  What are you suggesting?
- colinmhayes 6y ago
  Becoming a communist state is impossible. The leader of the socialist state won't let it happen. Power corrupts, why should we be putting more power in the hands of the state in hopes that one day it will relinquish it?
- crististm 6y ago
  Yes, they work alright, that is, until they turn into totalitarianism. Which they did, everywhere they were implemented.
  - phs318u 6y ago
    History isn’t over. If you think capitalism isn’t tending the same way (with the example of China showing how successfully it can work), you haven’t been paying attention.
    - crististm 6y ago
      Hong Kong has been paying attention more than us both apparently!
- crististm 6y ago
  You should come back in time 30-40 years and try a dose of prime-time communism yourself since you are so sure of yourself. Or, since you admit being ignorant about history, go read a book or two about Stalin. Keyboard warrior. No, they didn't fail from the communism. They failed from the people in power that made sure that competency was not to be rewarded. That no-one else but _them_ would continue to rule. That is communism! Dumbass!
djsumdog 6y ago
And keep in mind, we don't have a "pure" capitalism like the insane libertarian types would. (Remember how Ron Paul said Civil Rights legislation was unnecessary because the market would have taken care of it? It took years of fixing the system with child labour laws, union laws, anti-discrimination laws, factory strikes, workers riots, civil rights laws, minimum wage, etc. Capitalism works in the Nations where it does because of years of regulation to make it more fair and to weed out exploitation. People wanting to dismantle the state right now (and make no mistake, many of these riots have a lot of anarco-anti-cap/antifa people in them causing the violence) do not understand they will not get a better State. They'll be lucky to get some stable regions, but when a State falls there's a power vacuum. Then you have to start over .. and there will be a ton of corruption until you get everything "right" again.
- kiliantics 6y ago
  > because of years of regulation to make it more fair and to weed out exploitation Actually it's because of years of union-organising, putting pressure on companies and governments to implement these measures. Without unions, we would have none of these improved work conditions and protections.
- rumanator 6y ago
  > Remember how Ron Paul said Civil Rights legislation was unnecessary because the market would have taken care of it? I wonder how people could make such an argument if they have historical records of business owners rejecting more paying customers and spending more to put together duplicate infrastructure just because they felt that some paying customers had to be subjected to degraded levels of service just because.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    Faith doesn't require evidence.
    - winphone1974 6y ago
      Worse: fail rejects evidence

Please, go on and continue the propaganda about how socialism and communism doesn't work. Please point to failed nations/states that had communism and explain how they failed due to communism and that it definitely wasn't anything else.

dforrestwilson 6y ago
What are you suggesting?
colinmhayes 6y ago
Becoming a communist state is impossible. The leader of the socialist state won't let it happen. Power corrupts, why should we be putting more power in the hands of the state in hopes that one day it will relinquish it?
crististm 6y ago
Yes, they work alright, that is, until they turn into totalitarianism. Which they did, everywhere they were implemented.
- phs318u 6y ago
  History isn’t over. If you think capitalism isn’t tending the same way (with the example of China showing how successfully it can work), you haven’t been paying attention.
  - crististm 6y ago
    Hong Kong has been paying attention more than us both apparently!
crististm 6y ago
You should come back in time 30-40 years and try a dose of prime-time communism yourself since you are so sure of yourself. Or, since you admit being ignorant about history, go read a book or two about Stalin. Keyboard warrior. No, they didn't fail from the communism. They failed from the people in power that made sure that competency was not to be rewarded. That no-one else but _them_ would continue to rule. That is communism! Dumbass!

djsumdog 6y ago

And keep in mind, we don't have a "pure" capitalism like the insane libertarian types would. (Remember how Ron Paul said Civil Rights legislation was unnecessary because the market would have taken care of it? It took years of fixing the system with child labour laws, union laws, anti-discrimination laws, factory strikes, workers riots, civil rights laws, minimum wage, etc. Capitalism works in the Nations where it does because of years of regulation to make it more fair and to weed out exploitation. People wanting to dismantle the state right now (and make no mistake, many of these riots have a lot of anarco-anti-cap/antifa people in them causing the violence) do not understand they will not get a better State. They'll be lucky to get some stable regions, but when a State falls there's a power vacuum. Then you have to start over .. and there will be a ton of corruption until you get everything "right" again.

kiliantics 6y ago
> because of years of regulation to make it more fair and to weed out exploitation Actually it's because of years of union-organising, putting pressure on companies and governments to implement these measures. Without unions, we would have none of these improved work conditions and protections.
rumanator 6y ago
> Remember how Ron Paul said Civil Rights legislation was unnecessary because the market would have taken care of it? I wonder how people could make such an argument if they have historical records of business owners rejecting more paying customers and spending more to put together duplicate infrastructure just because they felt that some paying customers had to be subjected to degraded levels of service just because.
- triceratops 6y ago
  Faith doesn't require evidence.
  - winphone1974 6y ago
    Worse: fail rejects evidence