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Because many of us deal with computers all day and realize deep down there is a fundamental difference between humans and computers that isn't going anywhere?

• kadoban 6y ago
  It's not going anywhere until it does. Look at the history of AI in various tasks and fields. It only ever goes one direction, and there does not seem to be a fundamental block.
  • codr7 6y ago
    I'd argue that the fundamental block is that it's not human, period.
    • kadoban 6y ago
      We appear to exist in a mechanical universe of laws. There's really no way it's possible both that humans exist and that we can't replicate or approximate enough parts of the human brain enough to match or better human reasoning. If the human part bothers you, substitute animals instead. They do much of what we need to various, usually somewhat lesser levels. This line of thinking is reinforced by the results we've had so far. Why should we assume there's a limit if we haven't hit one yet, and see no fundamental block? Where would this limit be? Even our extremely limited understanding so far has provided some pretty amazing results. The only question is performance and difficulty at various levels of technology and understanding. It's a matter of time. It won't be tomorrow, but unless we cease to exist first, it will happen. And once it's a matter of engineering that can be iterated upon, things get really interesting.
      • codr7 6y ago
        I realize I'm most probably not going to change your mind here :) And it's fine, live and let live. I've had plenty of experiences in meditation and on hallucinogenics that don't fit into your picture. What I don't understand is how you can be so certain of anything, given that we're all observing the system subjectively from the inside.