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As a decidedly amateur historian with interest in this area, I think that claim is true on its own but also does not tell the entire story. It is true that dec
by jcrawfordor 6y ago
As a decidedly amateur historian with interest in this area, I think that claim is true on its own but also does not tell the entire story.
It is true that decentralization was viewed as a major component of nuclear survivability, particularly in the earlier part of the cold war. This was the time period during which the FEMA (today's name) crisis relocation program was being devised, for example, and the high cost and complexity of crisis relocation (which, in an earlier form, was a major motivation for the Eisenhower freeway system, to the extent that it's probably fair to say that it was the main motivation with materiel movement as a second) served to highlight the inherent vulnerability of dense cities and keep it very much in the minds of government planners. Decentralized cities had an inherent advantage to planners in that money could be saved on crisis relocation efforts. Of course the crisis relocation program was never fully implemented, but the way of thinking was fairly influential.
The federal government had an enormous role in suburbanization of US cities in many, many ways, which is actually part of what makes it hard to address this point. Support for suburbanization was not coming just (or even primarily) from FEMA, all kinds of federal agencies had a hand. Much of the urban renewal work of the 20th century took the effective form of relocating poor people to the suburbs and replacing their inner-city housing with industrial/commercial/transport, for example the Model Cities program of the late '60s. This was in part a result of the general feeling that the inner city was where poor people lived and so improving their economic situation required getting them out of it, part of it was merely the practical issue that substantially improving a dense area is a lot more expensive than razing it and build something new there. I don't know if these programs were strongly influenced by crisis planning, they probably were at least in part, but it seems unlikely that crisis planning was a much bigger influence in federal advocacy of suburbanization than the more organic trends of white flight and urban decay that came out of a set of race and class relations, in a potent combination with some simple budget and timeline considerations.
My point is that nuclear planning was a factor, but the massive suburbanization of the postwar decades originated from many factors out of which nuclear crisis planning was only one, and I'm not convinced that it was one of the bigger ones in the end. Yes, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists very openly advocated for suburbanization of cities and that view was influential, but at the same time so much of suburbanization was motivated by a new vision of the American dream that came out of the peculiarities of post-war economics and demographics, racism, the radical popularity of the automobile (which not only enabled low-density areas but often required the destruction of high-density areas to provide freeway access to business districts), and probably at least a few other things.
Any claim that "urban sprawl is a result of x" where X isn't a list of things is probably pretty hard to defend. A complete change in not just urban planning but people's patterns of life tends to require a confluence of factors.
- an_opabinia 6y agoWell, nowadays, designing a city around defense would seem ridiculous.
- trhway 6y agodifferent times, different threat models. I think we may as well see a city design emerging which would be taking into account aerial viral spread, remote work/study, etc. which would affect density, transportation, etc. Deepening stratification of society will naturally generate even higher social tension gradients which may present a potential threat to social stability, and thus it may require even more intentional measures in the future city designs to support social stability in the face of such gradients. I think we can see city designs addressing such emerging trends as autonomous delivery/transportation (which naturally plays well with the stratification), policing and public safety in general - i.e. more conductive to total surveillance, robot based policing (how about that one at Shoreline Cinema 16 or even those Starships crawling on Castro - today delivering pizza it'd politely wait for you to let him pass, yet i'm sure that while waiting it dreams about tomorrow when painted with police insignia it'd be forcing its way though the crowd by throwing tear gas and delivering taser jolts :) and making it easier for containment of protest and terrorist activity.
- mr_toad 6y agoIt’s funny that the innermost areas of many European cities have designs that go back to the days when everyone lived behind walls.
- arethuza 6y agoAlso at least famous example in North America: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street#Early_years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street#Early_years
- js2 6y ago> crisis relocation (which, in an earlier form, was a major motivation for the Eisenhower freeway system, to the extent that it's probably fair to say that it was the main motivation with materiel movement as a second) I've heard that before, but the DOT claims evacuation was a minor factor. From https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/interstatemyths.cfm#question3 https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/interstatemyths.cfm#ques... President Eisenhower supported the Interstate System because he wanted a way of evacuating cities if the United States was attacked by an atomic bomb. President Eisenhower’s support was based largely on civilian needs—support for economic development, improved highway safety, and congestion relief, as well as reduction of motor vehicle-related lawsuits. He understood the military value of the Interstate System, as well as its use in evacuations, but they were only part of the reason for his support. Defense was the primary reason for the Interstate System. The primary justifications for the Interstate System were civilian in nature. In the midst of the Cold War, the Department of Defense supported the Interstate System and Congress added the words “and Defense” to its official name in 1956 (“National System of Interstate and Defense Highways”). However, the program was so popular for its civilian benefits that the legislation would have passed even if defense had not been a factor.