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Are there any attempts to have it both ways? Like, the source code stays in English but my IDE translates keywords to and from my language.

jannes 6y ago
That's exactly how Excel does it. Personally, I don't like it. I prefer English function names. However, the most annoying thing about Excel localisation is that the behaviour of CSV import/export changes depending on the OS locale setting. It doesn't even let you override it. You actually have to change the OS settings to get the English behaviour.
- wink 6y ago
  Might be wrong on this one but I thought that I had heard that this was not the case in earlier versions and if you opened a German excel file on a computer set to English it would fail.
twanvl 6y ago
Excel does this for function names. If you open a file in your localized copy all the names are translated.
remix2000 6y ago
If you made all keywords fit one character or so and allow selective installation of dictionaries, that would probably also decrease source code form size significantly! That would be great even if you never were to use any language other than English. I’ve played with APL a bit and found out that one can configure Emacs to replace APL’s cryptic symbols with English words using this: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PrettySymbol https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PrettySymbol APL is however not a language that one would consider using seriously.
- lordgrenville 6y ago
  Emacs also has prettify-symbols-mode, which by default replaces lambda with λ, but can do a lot more - it can make Python look like this! http://www.modernemacs.com/img/spacemacs/python-code.png http://www.modernemacs.com/img/spacemacs/python-code.png
- JohnBooty 6y ago
  that would probably also decrease source code form size significantly! I feel like, out of all the challenges facing software development today, "source code size" is probably not in the top 10,000 =)

jannes 6y ago

That's exactly how Excel does it. Personally, I don't like it. I prefer English function names. However, the most annoying thing about Excel localisation is that the behaviour of CSV import/export changes depending on the OS locale setting. It doesn't even let you override it. You actually have to change the OS settings to get the English behaviour.

wink 6y ago
Might be wrong on this one but I thought that I had heard that this was not the case in earlier versions and if you opened a German excel file on a computer set to English it would fail.

twanvl 6y ago

Excel does this for function names. If you open a file in your localized copy all the names are translated.

remix2000 6y ago

If you made all keywords fit one character or so and allow selective installation of dictionaries, that would probably also decrease source code form size significantly! That would be great even if you never were to use any language other than English. I’ve played with APL a bit and found out that one can configure Emacs to replace APL’s cryptic symbols with English words using this: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PrettySymbol https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PrettySymbol APL is however not a language that one would consider using seriously.

lordgrenville 6y ago
Emacs also has prettify-symbols-mode, which by default replaces lambda with λ, but can do a lot more - it can make Python look like this! http://www.modernemacs.com/img/spacemacs/python-code.png http://www.modernemacs.com/img/spacemacs/python-code.png
JohnBooty 6y ago
that would probably also decrease source code form size significantly! I feel like, out of all the challenges facing software development today, "source code size" is probably not in the top 10,000 =)