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I stopped reading after seeing the cancer/hearth disease chart. It reinforces the belief that most deaths are caused by cancer, while actually it's hearth disea

I stopped reading after seeing the cancer/hearth disease chart. It reinforces the belief that most deaths are caused by cancer, while actually it's hearth disease. So if you make a chart, please make it accurate. Therefore I couldn't trust the rest, since it might all be "drawn from the wrist".

Gatsky 6y ago
This isn’t true. Cancer is often the top cause of death in women depending on which country you are in (eg Australia).
est31 6y ago
If you unify all cancers into one category, then cancer is the top cause. If you split them up into the different types, then heart disease is bigger than any single of them. So you are wrong. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-death https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-... Shows heart disease as #1 with 3 million deaths but separates the cancer types. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cancer https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cancer Says there were 9.6 million deaths caused by cancer, so more than 3 times the heart disease amount.
- Supermancho 6y ago
  The second link says: "Cancer is the second leading cause of death globally, and is responsible for an estimated 9.6 million deaths in 2018. Globally, about 1 in 6 deaths is due to cancer." > So you are wrong. Please be more careful in making this statement. The evidence you present should allow the reader to make their own decision.
  - est31 6y ago
    > "Cancer is the second leading cause of death globally Huh missed that, thanks for pointing it out! I guess that this statement compares combined cancer types with the combined cardiovascular diseases [1]. Then, yes, cancer is #2. But the cardiovascular diseases can't really be summarized by "heart disease" because they include stuff like stroke as well. So I wouldn't really say that OP is right. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rat... PS: Also note that in a sibling comment I already stated that I got the death count of heart disease wrong.
    - koonsolo 6y ago
      > So I wouldn't really say that OP is right. If you look at improving your health, I am right. Most people think you should prevent getting cancer (as I did before). But actually, you should put more emphasis on preventing hearth and artery disease, since it is the cause of more deaths! (I hope this last part is cleared out). Plus, it is also more clear on how to prevent that, than how to prevent cancer.
- jerf 6y ago
  In that case, heart disease should be split too. It isn't as many things as cancer, but it isn't all one thing, either.
- est31 6y ago
  Can't edit any more but I got the heart disease number wrong, it's way more than 3 million (no idea where I got the 3 from). Not mentioned in the text of the first link but here it's observable as 9.4 million: https://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/causes_death/top_10/en/ https://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/causes_deat... So the two causes heart disease and cancer are mostly comparable in terms of number of people killed.

Gatsky 6y ago

This isn’t true. Cancer is often the top cause of death in women depending on which country you are in (eg Australia).

est31 6y ago

If you unify all cancers into one category, then cancer is the top cause. If you split them up into the different types, then heart disease is bigger than any single of them. So you are wrong. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-causes-of-death https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/the-top-10-... Shows heart disease as #1 with 3 million deaths but separates the cancer types. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cancer https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/cancer Says there were 9.6 million deaths caused by cancer, so more than 3 times the heart disease amount.

Supermancho 6y ago
The second link says: "Cancer is the second leading cause of death globally, and is responsible for an estimated 9.6 million deaths in 2018. Globally, about 1 in 6 deaths is due to cancer." > So you are wrong. Please be more careful in making this statement. The evidence you present should allow the reader to make their own decision.
- est31 6y ago
  > "Cancer is the second leading cause of death globally Huh missed that, thanks for pointing it out! I guess that this statement compares combined cancer types with the combined cardiovascular diseases [1]. Then, yes, cancer is #2. But the cardiovascular diseases can't really be summarized by "heart disease" because they include stuff like stroke as well. So I wouldn't really say that OP is right. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rat... PS: Also note that in a sibling comment I already stated that I got the death count of heart disease wrong.
  - koonsolo 6y ago
    > So I wouldn't really say that OP is right. If you look at improving your health, I am right. Most people think you should prevent getting cancer (as I did before). But actually, you should put more emphasis on preventing hearth and artery disease, since it is the cause of more deaths! (I hope this last part is cleared out). Plus, it is also more clear on how to prevent that, than how to prevent cancer.
jerf 6y ago
In that case, heart disease should be split too. It isn't as many things as cancer, but it isn't all one thing, either.
est31 6y ago
Can't edit any more but I got the heart disease number wrong, it's way more than 3 million (no idea where I got the 3 from). Not mentioned in the text of the first link but here it's observable as 9.4 million: https://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/causes_death/top_10/en/ https://www.who.int/gho/mortality_burden_disease/causes_deat... So the two causes heart disease and cancer are mostly comparable in terms of number of people killed.