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These people are the really weird ones to me. They think they are more experts than the people who have studied this stuff for years. I don't understand the a

by PakG1 6y ago

These people are the really weird ones to me. They think they are more experts than the people who have studied this stuff for years. I don't understand the arrogance.

evan_ 6y ago
They attribute it to malice, not ignorance. The people I see speaking about this believe either there is no virus, or it’s overblown- and most or all of the deaths are either misattributed car accidents and natural cause deaths, or made up from whole cloth. Doctors and hospitals are supposedly being compensated to falsely report deaths as having been caused by COVID. Obviously there are not large numbers of misattributed deaths or hospital conspiracies. This mirrors the theory held by basically the same people that climate change is just something used to push a political agenda and that scientists fake the data for grant money.
- rvense 6y ago
  > scientists fake the data for grant money This one's the weirdest. If I had climate science credentials and wanted to cash in I'd be shilling for oil companies. Like that old Tom Lehrer joke about a doctor who specialized in diseases of the rich.
  - PakG1 6y ago
    Well, never let it be said that conspiracy theories go with Occam's Razor, they can get really convoluted. Like the jump from Gates wanting to inject everyone with vaccines to Gates wanting to inject everyone with vaccines and chips so that he can control the world.
- takeda 6y ago
  Looks like we had high spike of car accidents this year [1] /s [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
mistermann 6y ago
I don't understand the naivete of how some people seem to believe they have a strong grasp on how/what millions of other people think. Actually, I may have a half-decent understanding of it, but any such beliefs are necessarily speculative. What I really don't understand is why people who work with systems for a living seem to be largely unable/unwilling to think of our planet as a system of interconnected/interactive systems, that have certain complex behaviors, and if you want to produce certain output, it requires specific input (that needs to be determined by understanding the system).

by PakG1 6y ago

These people are the really weird ones to me. They think they are more experts than the people who have studied this stuff for years. I don't understand the arrogance.

evan_ 6y ago

They attribute it to malice, not ignorance. The people I see speaking about this believe either there is no virus, or it’s overblown- and most or all of the deaths are either misattributed car accidents and natural cause deaths, or made up from whole cloth. Doctors and hospitals are supposedly being compensated to falsely report deaths as having been caused by COVID. Obviously there are not large numbers of misattributed deaths or hospital conspiracies. This mirrors the theory held by basically the same people that climate change is just something used to push a political agenda and that scientists fake the data for grant money.

rvense 6y ago
> scientists fake the data for grant money This one's the weirdest. If I had climate science credentials and wanted to cash in I'd be shilling for oil companies. Like that old Tom Lehrer joke about a doctor who specialized in diseases of the rich.
- PakG1 6y ago
  Well, never let it be said that conspiracy theories go with Occam's Razor, they can get really convoluted. Like the jump from Gates wanting to inject everyone with vaccines to Gates wanting to inject everyone with vaccines and chips so that he can control the world.
takeda 6y ago
Looks like we had high spike of car accidents this year [1] /s [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

mistermann 6y ago

I don't understand the naivete of how some people seem to believe they have a strong grasp on how/what millions of other people think. Actually, I may have a half-decent understanding of it, but any such beliefs are necessarily speculative. What I really don't understand is why people who work with systems for a living seem to be largely unable/unwilling to think of our planet as a system of interconnected/interactive systems, that have certain complex behaviors, and if you want to produce certain output, it requires specific input (that needs to be determined by understanding the system).