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Yeah but you're also free to sell your product at Walmart, smaller stores, or any other retailer which may have different rates. With the Apple store you have w

Yeah but you're also free to sell your product at Walmart, smaller stores, or any other retailer which may have different rates. With the Apple store you have well....the Apple store.

prepend 6y ago
And Google Play and Amazon’s App Store, and Steam, and Epic, etc etc.
- gsich 6y ago
  Those don't fit in your comparison here. While Google Play might be seen as the only way, there is nothing to stop you from going to some other store (F-Droid e.g). Also you are not forced as a developer to go Steam or Epic. You could just offer a download from your website. Also, at least with Steam and Epic you can generate keys that you can sell outside of those stores in which you keep 100%. That's choice. You don't have that choice in iOS.
  - Mediterraneo10 6y ago
    > While Google Play might be seen as the only way, there is nothing to stop you from going to some other store (F-Droid e.g). Over upcoming releases of AOSP, Google intends to disable sideloading in Android, except for that tiny tech audience who knows how to enable developer mode and install over the command line. So, both direct APK downloads and F-Droid will be accessible to fewer ordinary Android users than is already the case. Definitely not enough people to build an app business on.
    - heavyset_go 6y ago
      > Over upcoming releases of AOSP, Google intends to disable sideloading in Android, except for that tiny tech audience who knows how to enable developer mode and install over the command line. This is a gross and anti-competitive overstep.
    - noisem4ker 6y ago
      Have you got any source for this claim?
    - fomine3 6y ago
      It still allows sideload without developer mode, unlike iOS. https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/24/android-11-install-unknown-apps-more-cumbersome/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/24/android-11-install-...
- wutwutwutwut 6y ago
  You can sell iOS games on Google Play?
  - baddox 6y ago
    If you define “what your software is” so precisely that it must be running on iOS to count as your software, then sure, by definition your software can’t exist on Google Play. But that’s just as ludicrous as manufacturing shirts and defining “what your product is” as “shirts being sold at Walmart,” then complaining that you cannot by definition sell your shirts at Target because they would no longer be your shirts.
    - bryan_w 6y ago
      I mean, it's not unreasonable to say that "my software" = My binary that is running on a device. With android, I can have an .apk that is distributed via the play store or I can have that exact same .apk distributed via any other store that exists for that device.
    - wutwutwutwut 6y ago
      That's a very odd reply. Software are always targeting a platform. Tshirts aren't targeting a specific store.
- puranjay 6y ago
  Except it's not the "same" software. If I have to make native iOS and Android apps, I have to essentially create two separate pieces of code. If I was selling my software at Walmart, I have to change nothing to sell it at Target.
  - 1123581321 6y ago
    There’s little difference between a software company staffing a small porting/parity team, and a retail product company staffing special AR and buyer management teams to deal with large distributors.

Yeah but you're also free to sell your product at Walmart, smaller stores, or any other retailer which may have different rates. With the Apple store you have well....the Apple store.

prepend 6y ago

And Google Play and Amazon’s App Store, and Steam, and Epic, etc etc.

gsich 6y ago
Those don't fit in your comparison here. While Google Play might be seen as the only way, there is nothing to stop you from going to some other store (F-Droid e.g). Also you are not forced as a developer to go Steam or Epic. You could just offer a download from your website. Also, at least with Steam and Epic you can generate keys that you can sell outside of those stores in which you keep 100%. That's choice. You don't have that choice in iOS.
- Mediterraneo10 6y ago
  > While Google Play might be seen as the only way, there is nothing to stop you from going to some other store (F-Droid e.g). Over upcoming releases of AOSP, Google intends to disable sideloading in Android, except for that tiny tech audience who knows how to enable developer mode and install over the command line. So, both direct APK downloads and F-Droid will be accessible to fewer ordinary Android users than is already the case. Definitely not enough people to build an app business on.
  - heavyset_go 6y ago
    > Over upcoming releases of AOSP, Google intends to disable sideloading in Android, except for that tiny tech audience who knows how to enable developer mode and install over the command line. This is a gross and anti-competitive overstep.
  - noisem4ker 6y ago
    Have you got any source for this claim?
  - fomine3 6y ago
    It still allows sideload without developer mode, unlike iOS. https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/24/android-11-install-unknown-apps-more-cumbersome/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/24/android-11-install-...
wutwutwutwut 6y ago
You can sell iOS games on Google Play?
- baddox 6y ago
  If you define “what your software is” so precisely that it must be running on iOS to count as your software, then sure, by definition your software can’t exist on Google Play. But that’s just as ludicrous as manufacturing shirts and defining “what your product is” as “shirts being sold at Walmart,” then complaining that you cannot by definition sell your shirts at Target because they would no longer be your shirts.
  - bryan_w 6y ago
    I mean, it's not unreasonable to say that "my software" = My binary that is running on a device. With android, I can have an .apk that is distributed via the play store or I can have that exact same .apk distributed via any other store that exists for that device.
  - wutwutwutwut 6y ago
    That's a very odd reply. Software are always targeting a platform. Tshirts aren't targeting a specific store.
puranjay 6y ago
Except it's not the "same" software. If I have to make native iOS and Android apps, I have to essentially create two separate pieces of code. If I was selling my software at Walmart, I have to change nothing to sell it at Target.
- 1123581321 6y ago
  There’s little difference between a software company staffing a small porting/parity team, and a retail product company staffing special AR and buyer management teams to deal with large distributors.