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I could say that we’re very often in situations like this. I buy gym membership but it’s not for me to decide who is the staff or what kind of equipment is the

by xlii 6y ago

I could say that we’re very often in situations like this. I buy gym membership but it’s not for me to decide who is the staff or what kind of equipment is there. I buy a car but I can’t drive anywhere but places I’m either legally allowed or where land owner lets me. I pay for the medical insurance and I don’t get to choose exact procedures I’m going to be signed to. I’d say that “I pay but I don’t have control” is common theme. Sure I can switch to other service provider but no perfect providers for any service exists. There are other mobile systems as well. One interesting thought behind what you wrote is that you compared software ecosystem to utility. I wouldn’t go as far. OS is OS and if you don’t like it you legally can jailbreak device albeit the provider in this case can choose not to support it, which it does.

Aeolun 6y ago
> I buy a car but I can’t drive anywhere but places I’m either legally allowed or where land owner lets me. Note that you are not allowed to drive everywhere. You can absolutely drive your car anywhere you want. Including off a cliff if you are so inclined. This is more akin to shutting off the engine if you are not driving on an Toyota approved road.
- xlii 6y ago
  And in iOS perspective that's jailbreak. You can have not-supported ecosystem and it's completely legal. You probably don't know this, but current car manufacturers can stop car from starting if a) maintenance isn't done in a way it should be (see AdBlue) b) maintenance is done with non-original parts Sure - b) is the premium and luxury segment, but you don't see people raging about this. Because - as with smartphone - it's a choice that they made. iPhone isn't a necessity. It's a choice. If you don't like it you can choose one of many other mobile systems or opt for a dumb phone.
  - fomine3 6y ago
    > b) is the premium and luxury segment, but you don't see people raging about this. Because - as with smartphone - it's a choice that they made. I saw people complaining at HN. "You can choose other than iPhone" is invalid because it's iPhone/Android duopoly market.

by xlii 6y ago

Aeolun 6y ago

> I buy a car but I can’t drive anywhere but places I’m either legally allowed or where land owner lets me. Note that you are not allowed to drive everywhere. You can absolutely drive your car anywhere you want. Including off a cliff if you are so inclined. This is more akin to shutting off the engine if you are not driving on an Toyota approved road.

xlii 6y ago
And in iOS perspective that's jailbreak. You can have not-supported ecosystem and it's completely legal. You probably don't know this, but current car manufacturers can stop car from starting if a) maintenance isn't done in a way it should be (see AdBlue) b) maintenance is done with non-original parts Sure - b) is the premium and luxury segment, but you don't see people raging about this. Because - as with smartphone - it's a choice that they made. iPhone isn't a necessity. It's a choice. If you don't like it you can choose one of many other mobile systems or opt for a dumb phone.
- fomine3 6y ago
  > b) is the premium and luxury segment, but you don't see people raging about this. Because - as with smartphone - it's a choice that they made. I saw people complaining at HN. "You can choose other than iPhone" is invalid because it's iPhone/Android duopoly market.