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> I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. You can talk to your representatives about it. You can start actively boycotting Chinese-made produ
by mrpopo 6y ago
> I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do.
You can talk to your representatives about it. You can start actively boycotting Chinese-made products (not so easy, I know). You can donate to NGOs such as the UHRP (Uyghur Human Rights Project). You can follow them on Twitter.
It's not like Lebron James will solve this either, so don't blame it on him.
- Darmody 6y agoI do boycott Chinese products. I can't boycott everything because sometimes there are no alternatives but I do what I can. Lebron can't solve this but what he can do is at least talk about it. One word and millions of people would know about it. Same thing happens with the NBA. They're very vocal about BLM but when it comes to HK...you can't even buy a t-shirt with "Free Honk Kong" on it.
- jsiepkes 6y agoA positive view would be that you could say that even the NBA needs to "pick it's battles" and can't do all of BLM, HK, Uyghurs, etc. A more grim view would be that in the end companies will do what's best for them. Currently It's in the NBA's best interest to support BLM since it affects their base. HK, Uyghurs, etc. doesn't really affect them and fighting a battle for it doesn't help them in anyway.
- take_a_breath 6y agoNBA players choose BLM for their protests and you choose China, I don’t see the problem. Blaming them for international policy seems a little naive.
- jerf 6y agoIt sounds like you may not be aware that the NBA has been actively and specifically blocking criticism of China. It sounds like currently they've reversed that policy on at least what custom jerseys they'll print, but only after a lot of pressure. The NBA is not neutrally "permitting" their players to protest things if they happen to want to, they have taken an extremely active role in what political actions are and are not allowed, and anti-China protests have consistently been on the "not allowed" side, by the league. The NBA, as an organization, is not a neutral; they have chosen sides.
- take_a_breath 6y agoI am well aware of the NBA's actions. The specific question was about an NBA player, which would be the NBA Players Association, not the league itself. They work for the league, in the same way many of the companies HN Readers work for do business in China.
- vinceguidry 6y agoThey'd block BLM support as well if they could get away with it.
- Darmody 6y agoI don't choose China. I'll speak up against anything that I think is wrong. China treatment to the Uighurs is one of them. You won't see me saying "black lives don't matter" only to earn some money.
- abc-xyz 6y agoI’m voting and campaigning for politicians that I might disagree with on 99% of all issues for the sole reason that they’re willing and capable of standing up to China. For reference, my views are aligned with Sanders but I’d vote for Trump solely based on his actions towards China. I’d also say boycotting Made in China and companies kowtowing to China isn’t as difficult as people say. You might not be able to boycott it 100%, but it’s not that hard to find alternatives to 90+% of the products.
- gigatexal 6y agoWow. So China’s so big of an existential threat that you’ll let one of the worst presidents in history have another 4 years to continue screwing the country? Trump’s going to win again smh.
- logicchains 6y agoBecause whatever Trump apparently did is way worse than China apparently sticking a million Muslims in concentration camps?
- take_a_breath 6y agoWhat has Trump done to stop the concentration camps aside from praise their leader and sell products made there?
- logicchains 6y agoThis poster gave some examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24304367 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24304367
- take_a_breath 6y agoI didn't see any sources or references on that comment nor does it mention the concentration camps anywhere.
- lordnacho 6y agoWhy have you decided to boycott Chinese products? There's a billion people there, and most of them have nothing to do with the government. They just want to sell toys or computers or whatever it is, in order to be able to eat. I don't boycott Apple just because the country they are based in (according to the note in the box) has committed some crimes over the years. And in the US people at least ostensibly have the right to choose their own government, AND there's a culture for large corporations to lobby government directly. You'll find the same people who want to boycott Chinese products are ironically also quite good at keeping us aware that people in China can't really speak their own minds. Also, at what level should the boycott happen? Should I just boycott Californian luxury electronics manufacturers? All Californian firms? All US? The world is a tangled web, why is the political map the one whose lines you use?
- unionpivo 6y ago> There's a billion people there, and most of them have nothing to do with the government. Because that billion people there is the only one who can change the government.
- lordnacho 6y agoAre you quite aware of how much blood is spilled when China goes through political turmoil? Aside from the world wars, a huge chunk of the top 10 bloodiest conflicts in history are Chinese internal conflicts. You're asking people who understand very well that standing up for a new government is going to be extremely costly. In the meantime, you want to deprive them of work. Ever wonder how those two things are connected?
- frequentnapper 6y agoSure, so let them just continue to commit atrocities.
- rieter 6y agoWhy won't 350 million American citizens do something about their own government first, before engaging in moral grandstanding in respect to other countries? No, this doesn't mean just getting rid of Trump - the entire political spectrum is complicit in millions of deaths every decade. US calls itself a "Democracy", so you're supposed to be more empowered to make a change than an average Chinese citizen.