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The true question is: may I be able to play an online video game in the deep Sahara before the modern human civilization collapses?

eru 6y ago
Depends on what latencies you can tolerate.
baq 6y ago
50ms ping should be reasonable for most games. whippersnappers who complain about 20ms ping should watch some quakeworld or quake 3 cpma where this dude rat used to destroy everyone on 300ms.
- rkangel 6y ago
  On some games (Rainbow 6: Siege being the one I'm most familiar with) latency actually helps you, as the enemy has an out of date picture of where you are.
  - de_watcher 6y ago
    Yes, in Natural Selection 2 you can't properly ambush anyone unless you take into account the ping and jump on them before you even see each other.
- chucky 6y ago
  That's an unfair comparison though. Everyone used to play with high latency. There's a clear advantage to you if your ping is 20 ms and mine is 300 ms. Whether there's a clear advantage to having 50 vs 20 ms ping I can't answer. I'm quite certain that's an advantage I personally can't make any use of, but a Quake pro might be able to. Also, today's pro gamers are likely at a higher skill ceiling than the best players were 10 years ago.
  - adventured 6y ago
    > That's an unfair comparison though. Everyone used to play with high latency. I played a lot of Quake and that was not remotely close to being the case. There were the high ping and low ping players, with not much of a % inbetween. In 1996-1997 the vast majority of people were playing Quake online via dial-up modems. The best players had low pings and were playing over ISDNs or better (a lot of players were on fast university or corporate networks). > today's pro gamers are likely at a higher skill ceiling than the best players were 10 years ago. The pro-level players in the later half of the 1990s were as elite as anything that exists today in the FPS space. They were playing like it was a job even when it wasn't, and they had been doing it for a while (Doom LAN competitions were common before that). Quake clans were prolific. They also had professional caliber competitions / tournaments back then, see: the 1997 Red Annihilation Quake tournament in Atlanta, where Dennis Fong won Carmack's Ferrari.
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eru 6y ago

Depends on what latencies you can tolerate.

baq 6y ago

50ms ping should be reasonable for most games. whippersnappers who complain about 20ms ping should watch some quakeworld or quake 3 cpma where this dude rat used to destroy everyone on 300ms.

rkangel 6y ago
On some games (Rainbow 6: Siege being the one I'm most familiar with) latency actually helps you, as the enemy has an out of date picture of where you are.
- de_watcher 6y ago
  Yes, in Natural Selection 2 you can't properly ambush anyone unless you take into account the ping and jump on them before you even see each other.
chucky 6y ago
That's an unfair comparison though. Everyone used to play with high latency. There's a clear advantage to you if your ping is 20 ms and mine is 300 ms. Whether there's a clear advantage to having 50 vs 20 ms ping I can't answer. I'm quite certain that's an advantage I personally can't make any use of, but a Quake pro might be able to. Also, today's pro gamers are likely at a higher skill ceiling than the best players were 10 years ago.
- adventured 6y ago
  > That's an unfair comparison though. Everyone used to play with high latency. I played a lot of Quake and that was not remotely close to being the case. There were the high ping and low ping players, with not much of a % inbetween. In 1996-1997 the vast majority of people were playing Quake online via dial-up modems. The best players had low pings and were playing over ISDNs or better (a lot of players were on fast university or corporate networks). > today's pro gamers are likely at a higher skill ceiling than the best players were 10 years ago. The pro-level players in the later half of the 1990s were as elite as anything that exists today in the FPS space. They were playing like it was a job even when it wasn't, and they had been doing it for a while (Doom LAN competitions were common before that). Quake clans were prolific. They also had professional caliber competitions / tournaments back then, see: the 1997 Red Annihilation Quake tournament in Atlanta, where Dennis Fong won Carmack's Ferrari.

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