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I can watch pretty much anything with a spaceship in it. You put it a spaceship, it's like i'm 60 IQ points dumber (if we believed that IQ points were a real th

I can watch pretty much anything with a spaceship in it. You put it a spaceship, it's like i'm 60 IQ points dumber (if we believed that IQ points were a real thing and the intelligence can be measured on a one dimensional objective scale). If there's a spaceship I will tolerate bad dialogue, cardboard characters, absurd plots even absurd lack of plots. I'm willing to give you spaceship show makers a budget of 60 IQ points worth of stupid, but why? why do you need it?

sitkack 6y ago
The good writers have no shows and the shows with great budgets appear to not have writers.
- tenacious_tuna 6y ago
  Frustratingly, the books had a brilliant set of concepts for them to work with--and even tweak, a bit! But they diverged so crazily from that in S2 to go off in a "Netflix tries to create 3am Syfy" direction. Even with reliable material, Netflix finds a way to make it disappointing.
  - thu2111 6y ago
    Seems to be an incredibly common problem. TV writers don't seem able to make good stories, perhaps the skills needed are quite different. It's notable that nearly all high budget TV serials in recent years are adaptations of books. Knowing the books were successful surely reduces the risk, but then having found a winning formula the TV firm wants the series to last forever. They run out of book material and then the story goes off the rails as the TV writers can't match it. GoT being a classic example. I suspect the issue is timelines. TV projects are managed with tight deadlines because they expect a new series within a year. A book can be released more or less whenever the writer wants, as they answer to nobody unless they signed some sort of multi-book deal which is rare. Writers take more of the financial risk on themselves, whereas in TV it's the TV firm taking all the financial risk. So you get whatever plot they could come up with in 6 weeks or however long they have, and it can't match the quality of a story where perhaps the writer spent a year on it.
    - sitkack 6y ago
      It also appears that society as a whole is over-optimizing using clustering in a low dimensional space. It is quite ironic to me that I will say this, as I love animation as an art form, it can convey abstract ideas that are almost impossible in any other medium. But, the world is becoming more cartoonish and flat as PCA and k-means amplify the dimensions that optimize the outcomes. Equivalence is skin deep, we wrap things in a veneer of chrome, carbon fiber and hardwoods. The message is 100% medium.

sitkack 6y ago

The good writers have no shows and the shows with great budgets appear to not have writers.

tenacious_tuna 6y ago
Frustratingly, the books had a brilliant set of concepts for them to work with--and even tweak, a bit! But they diverged so crazily from that in S2 to go off in a "Netflix tries to create 3am Syfy" direction. Even with reliable material, Netflix finds a way to make it disappointing.
- thu2111 6y ago
  Seems to be an incredibly common problem. TV writers don't seem able to make good stories, perhaps the skills needed are quite different. It's notable that nearly all high budget TV serials in recent years are adaptations of books. Knowing the books were successful surely reduces the risk, but then having found a winning formula the TV firm wants the series to last forever. They run out of book material and then the story goes off the rails as the TV writers can't match it. GoT being a classic example. I suspect the issue is timelines. TV projects are managed with tight deadlines because they expect a new series within a year. A book can be released more or less whenever the writer wants, as they answer to nobody unless they signed some sort of multi-book deal which is rare. Writers take more of the financial risk on themselves, whereas in TV it's the TV firm taking all the financial risk. So you get whatever plot they could come up with in 6 weeks or however long they have, and it can't match the quality of a story where perhaps the writer spent a year on it.
  - sitkack 6y ago
    It also appears that society as a whole is over-optimizing using clustering in a low dimensional space. It is quite ironic to me that I will say this, as I love animation as an art form, it can convey abstract ideas that are almost impossible in any other medium. But, the world is becoming more cartoonish and flat as PCA and k-means amplify the dimensions that optimize the outcomes. Equivalence is skin deep, we wrap things in a veneer of chrome, carbon fiber and hardwoods. The message is 100% medium.