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You are misunderstanding what they meant by "personally." They don't mean they were singled out. They mean it was a first-hand experience. As in "I thanked h
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You are misunderstanding what they meant by "personally." They don't mean they were singled out. They mean it was a first-hand experience. As in "I thanked him personally for the gift." This is the primary definition of personally
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- arkis22 6y agoyour own definition relies on a 1 to 1 communication between people. so you're wrong right? I don't personally thank Rotary International for all their hard work. "I personally cursed the cop for pepper spraying me" Just that one cop huh? They're literally saying all the cops targeted them.
- shirakawasuna 6y agoPrevious commenter is correct. I'm just saying I had first hand experience being targeted.
- arkis22 6y agoExcept really we've established you weren't personally targeted and were just a random person in a protesting mob...
- pwinnski 6y agoHow is that better? In what world is police officers dosing large groups of protestors acceptable? Give it enough years, and people will talk about the brave protestors of 2020. But like all "brave protests" of the past, today they should be supported, and are not.
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- lawnchair_larry 6y agoIn the perfectly reasonable world where the protest was escalated by rioters, anarchists, and arsonists (you know, like every protest in portland, since ever) and the police issue a dispersal order as a response to buildings on fire and violent attacks. Then they issue 5 more. Then they announce it on twitter. There is NO other way to deal with a riot. The police are vastly outnumbered and have very few tools to do their job. Well there is another way, but it’s far worse. Nothing about these “protests” after dark is brave. It’s shameful and cowardly. So is the response from politicians.
- shirakawasuna 6y agoIn SEA, that's not how it's worked. The police violence has come before the announcements. Before any serious property damage (not that property damage justifies collective punishment or chemical weapons). Have you been to the protests in PDX? Seen the cops hurting people for standing in a protest?
- lawnchair_larry 6y agoThis is false for both Seattle and Portland. Like pretty much everything else you’re saying.
- shirakawasuna 6y agoAbsolute nonsense. I was there, repeatedly. They shot first and either then made an announcement or never made one. Example: they announced a curfew via text a few minutes before it went into effect. Many didn't get this because they didn't have their phones with them. Tear gas and flashbangs had already been deployed with zero warnings from police. It is not helpful or okay to assert such falsehoods with confidence.
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- shirakawasuna 6y ago1. In the sense that I used the term, I had the personal experience of being targeted. Attempting to browbeat me with your misapprehension is not going to work. 2. You're now editorializing my experience of which you have no knowledge, calling it a mob. Oh my. Please refrain from using your imagination regarding my experiences.
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- arkis22 6y agoI don't think you really understand the meaning of the words "I had the personal experience of being targeted." Mostly because you seem to ignore the words you use. Especially the word "targeted." Also because you could eliminate the word "personally" and you'd be more correct. But really, you can't just be in the middle of a protesting mob and then they get tear gassed and then say "HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME AND ONLY ME?!" >2. You're now editorializing my experience of which you have no knowledge, calling it a mob. Oh my. Please refrain from using your imagination regarding my experiences. I think that's a lesson you could learn from regarding other people as well. It seems like a right you reserve just for you.
- nfw2 6y agoMy definition doesn't imply communication between people or any interaction at all. It just means literally physically present for something. "After a long solo hike, the researcher was able to personally see the inside of a volcano." There is only one person in that story. No 1:1 communication. It just means the person was there for the thing. This is how personally was used in the comment.
- arkis22 6y agoyour ability to use the word "personal" in a sentence doesn't take away from the way they used it. In fact it's a little weird. Personal in this sense clearly means 1:1. I doubt the commenter pepper sprayed themselves?
- nfw2 6y ago"Personal in this sense clearly means 1:1." Why is that clear? The commenter said they meant the other definition. Wouldn't they know what they meant better than you do?
- arkis22 6y agothey have mentioned being explicitly targeted multiple times
- shirakawasuna 6y agoNope.
- arkis22 6y agoYou are so shockingly flexible.