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This article refers to "Mt. Tateyama" This is a slight misnaming. The suffix -yama in Japanese means "Mount." Hence, Mt. Fuji is called Fujiyama. And Tateyama i
by ternaryoperator 6y ago
This article refers to "Mt. Tateyama" This is a slight misnaming. The suffix -yama in Japanese means "Mount." Hence, Mt. Fuji is called Fujiyama. And Tateyama is correctly called Mt. Tate in English, as seen by the article about it in Wikipedia[1] or Tateyama, but not Mt. Tateyama.
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tate
- pwim 6y agoTo be pedantic, Mt. Fuji's is called Fujisan in Japanese (the character 山 can be read as yama or san).
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- aikinai 6y agoInterestingly, the redundancy isn’t always incorrect. Maybe it is for mountains? But many rivers in Japan have official English names that include “kawa.” I just looked on Wikipedia and see there are two Arakawas (at least); one is the Arakawa River and one is the Ara River.
- rootsudo 6y agoAnd 川 can be gawa or kawa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aki_River https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aki_River
- tlear 6y agoAnd Yama can be San. Also many mountains use dake. Like Jonen-dake
- aikinai 6y ago> The words Akigawa River sound a bit odd, as kawa and gawa, 川, are Japanese words for river,[7][8] so Aki River makes more sense, or simply Akigawa, perhaps Akikawa. Wow, this is the most unprofessional copy I’ve seen on Wikipedia! Maybe someone meant to write this on the talk page and accidentally posted in the article? I guess it’s so small potatoes, there’s no editor watching closely. Anyway, from a Japanese perspective “gawa” isn’t really different. It’s just a voiced consonant shift to better flow with the preceding sound. There’s a word for it, but can’t remember it off the top of my head.
- maxerickson 6y agoWhat does 'official' mean? Does Japan publish English names for their geographical features?
- aikinai 6y agoActually yes, the Geospatial Information Authority of Japan publishes official rules for English geographic names[0]. Also, I see that Mt. Tateyama is specifically listed here with "yama." So the article was correct. [0] https://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000138865.pdf https://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000138865.pdf
- rangibaby 6y agoThe Mt ...yama and ...kawa River variations are common even on official signage in Japan. The problem is that English speakers might not understand that “Tateyama” means “Mt Tate” and Japanese speakers might not understand that “Mt Tate” means “Tateyama”, so Mt Tateyama is a compromise.
- run2arun 6y agoLike Chai Tea. Chai means Tea in Hindi.
- gherkinnn 6y agoI dislike the ‘Mt.’ prefix attached to every mountain anyway. Mt Matterhorn. Mt Denali. Mt Mont Blanc. Eurgh. On that note, the <town>, <country> notation is hideous. Paris, France. Rome, Italy. Bleurgh.
- smcl 6y agoThere's loads of fun examples of this across the world - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tautological_place_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tautological_place_nam... I particularly like "Torpenhow"
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoI'm a Lake Semerwater (Lake-sea-mere water : lake lake-lake-lake fan personally).
- aikinai 6y agoI just looked this up responding to another comment and noticed that Mt. Tateyama is actually the official name recognized by the Geospatial Information Authority of Japan. https://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000138865.pdf https://www.gsi.go.jp/common/000138865.pdf