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Woah I have heard of the Mews, but had no idea about the "incel" connection. That feels mostly like a distraction to me. Here are some related HN links, nothi

by chubot 6y ago

Woah I have heard of the Mews, but had no idea about the "incel" connection. That feels mostly like a distraction to me. Here are some related HN links, nothing to do with "incels". I recommend reading "Jaws" by Kahn and "Breath" by Nestor. Both of them mention John Mew. He was an early advocate of the harmful effects of certain orthodontic practices on breathing. Sometimes the problem doesn't show up for decades. ----- Breathing habits are related to physical and mental health (wsj.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23271572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23271572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23434377 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23434377 - Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24012001 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24012001 - Book recommendation https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23665164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23665164 - Has anyone fixed their own bruxism? ----- I'm thinking of starting a blog on this subject, after mostly fixing my own breathing, with a lot of help... If anyone is interested feel free to mail me (e-mail in profile)

phatfish 6y ago
Yes, I don't think it needed to be in the title of the article. That was just click-bait on the part of the NYT. However its fine to mention it. If his work was made popular by angry men trying to get laid then that's how it happened. I did think he sounded exactly like the type Joe Rogan would go off the deep end with, sure enough half way through he says he is going to California to try and get on Joe's podcast, lol. Reading it there is something to underlying premise that how the jaw is used is reflected in how it develops physically. That makes logical sense. Whether any of treatments he recommends work seems to be very much unproven.
emsy 6y ago
There are a lot of dismissive comments in this thread about “Mewing”. Not because studies disproved his theory but because no study proves it yet, which I find ignorant. It reminds me of the critics of Semelweiss that laughed about the idea that hand washing would save patients lives. I’m not saying Mew is right, I simply think dismissing a plausible theory outright is dumb.
- api 6y ago
  Unfortunately the best way to discredit something is to have a toxic community like incels pick it up.

by chubot 6y ago

phatfish 6y ago

Yes, I don't think it needed to be in the title of the article. That was just click-bait on the part of the NYT. However its fine to mention it. If his work was made popular by angry men trying to get laid then that's how it happened. I did think he sounded exactly like the type Joe Rogan would go off the deep end with, sure enough half way through he says he is going to California to try and get on Joe's podcast, lol. Reading it there is something to underlying premise that how the jaw is used is reflected in how it develops physically. That makes logical sense. Whether any of treatments he recommends work seems to be very much unproven.

emsy 6y ago

There are a lot of dismissive comments in this thread about “Mewing”. Not because studies disproved his theory but because no study proves it yet, which I find ignorant. It reminds me of the critics of Semelweiss that laughed about the idea that hand washing would save patients lives. I’m not saying Mew is right, I simply think dismissing a plausible theory outright is dumb.

api 6y ago
Unfortunately the best way to discredit something is to have a toxic community like incels pick it up.