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Where is the fundamental problem in doing that? Would saying that genocide is bad be political? What about if a country's government and people believed in gen

Where is the fundamental problem in doing that? Would saying that genocide is bad be political? What about if a country's government and people believed in genocide of a specific race -- would saying that said country is committing genocide be political? If it is political, is it bad to be politically against that? What is the actual problem with being political, especially when being 'political' means being on the right side of morality?

slim 6y ago
Your discourse is historically what provokes genocides. you seem to use "ideology" in place of "china" as a way to express xenophobic thoughts you're singling out a nation as dangerous for the future of humanity. as if they're not part of humanity. it's called "dehumanizing" and it's the first step in any genocide. Chinese are as human as you. Moreover the rest of humanity is happy to have China as a challenger to American hegemony. so you're mistaken in thinking it's China against the rest of the world.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  Nobody's saying the Chinese nation is dangerous. China is a great country filled with wonderful people. The problem is the Chinese government, the totalitarian system that's doing a genocide as we speak and trying to bully the world into quietly ignoring it.
- genocidicbunny 6y ago
  I can see how it would be easy to consider equal what I say with me being specifically against China, but I was speaking in broader terms; Genocide is something is very broadly considered to be a horrendous crime, hence my example of it -- the correlation with China is incidental and not intended to be the main focus. I single out specific ideologies as being dangerous for the future of humanity. It is the paradox of tolerance -- to be tolerant, you cannot tolerate intolerance, and that is what I am trying to grasp at. There are certain things that most people can universally agree to as being travesties and immoral (genocide being an example of such.) Any countries or governments participating in such activities, whatever the inclination of the people they govern, should be decried and blamed for such immoral acts. We should have to no tolerance for people and ideologies that are intolerant. And with that said, I don't think I ever blamed the Chinese people for what their government is participating in. While I wish there was more political will and influence in the general population in China to pursue friendlier policies, the current actions of the Chinese government are likely not directly condoned by their populace, and I lay no blame at their feet in this regard. At the same time though, I can blame their government for enacting and undertaking policies that are inherently anti-humanitarian and anti-ethical by most 'standards', and agitate for them to do better. I am just as happy to call out my own government for the various malfeasances it has participated in as well, but you focused on China, so there we are. I will gladly take the competition from China, or from Europe, or Africa, or Mars even for all I care, as long as its not on the back of the mistreatment of people. Until that's the case, I'm going to complain, whether its China, USA, Russia, Borneo or the Tooth Fairy that are doing bad things. So again I ask, what is the problem with being political, when being apolitical means being apathetic?
  - drieddust 6y ago
    Exactly tolerance of intolerance is suicidal. Ironically this is what left liberals are doing for a long time when it comes to intolerant idealogies like Communism and radical Islam.

slim 6y ago

Your discourse is historically what provokes genocides. you seem to use "ideology" in place of "china" as a way to express xenophobic thoughts you're singling out a nation as dangerous for the future of humanity. as if they're not part of humanity. it's called "dehumanizing" and it's the first step in any genocide. Chinese are as human as you. Moreover the rest of humanity is happy to have China as a challenger to American hegemony. so you're mistaken in thinking it's China against the rest of the world.

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
Nobody's saying the Chinese nation is dangerous. China is a great country filled with wonderful people. The problem is the Chinese government, the totalitarian system that's doing a genocide as we speak and trying to bully the world into quietly ignoring it.
genocidicbunny 6y ago
I can see how it would be easy to consider equal what I say with me being specifically against China, but I was speaking in broader terms; Genocide is something is very broadly considered to be a horrendous crime, hence my example of it -- the correlation with China is incidental and not intended to be the main focus. I single out specific ideologies as being dangerous for the future of humanity. It is the paradox of tolerance -- to be tolerant, you cannot tolerate intolerance, and that is what I am trying to grasp at. There are certain things that most people can universally agree to as being travesties and immoral (genocide being an example of such.) Any countries or governments participating in such activities, whatever the inclination of the people they govern, should be decried and blamed for such immoral acts. We should have to no tolerance for people and ideologies that are intolerant. And with that said, I don't think I ever blamed the Chinese people for what their government is participating in. While I wish there was more political will and influence in the general population in China to pursue friendlier policies, the current actions of the Chinese government are likely not directly condoned by their populace, and I lay no blame at their feet in this regard. At the same time though, I can blame their government for enacting and undertaking policies that are inherently anti-humanitarian and anti-ethical by most 'standards', and agitate for them to do better. I am just as happy to call out my own government for the various malfeasances it has participated in as well, but you focused on China, so there we are. I will gladly take the competition from China, or from Europe, or Africa, or Mars even for all I care, as long as its not on the back of the mistreatment of people. Until that's the case, I'm going to complain, whether its China, USA, Russia, Borneo or the Tooth Fairy that are doing bad things. So again I ask, what is the problem with being political, when being apolitical means being apathetic?
- drieddust 6y ago
  Exactly tolerance of intolerance is suicidal. Ironically this is what left liberals are doing for a long time when it comes to intolerant idealogies like Communism and radical Islam.