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I've seen it argued that releasing a Linux version (even using Unity/Unreal) is worse than releasing a Windows version that runs on Proton, because the Windows

I've seen it argued that releasing a Linux version (even using Unity/Unreal) is worse than releasing a Windows version that runs on Proton, because the Windows API is stabler and the Linux version will inevitably bitrot without continual updates.

Godel_unicode 6y ago
There's a serious rumor that this is what actually killed rocket league on Linux. Why maintain a fork if proton is better anyway?
- axaxs 6y ago
  Proton is good, but in no measure 'better'. Linux isn't as unstable as everyone makes it out to be. Quite the opposite. Proton still has to work on linux, afterall. If Linux support bitrots quickly, then so does everyone dependent on proton.
  - Godel_unicode 6y ago
    Better controller support, especially vibration, and higher frame rates count as measures in my book. Have you tried it?
    - axaxs 6y ago
      Yes absolutely. Proton is a great product. But underneath, it's still Linux. So saying 'Linux support is terrible, Proton is better' makes absolutely zero sense.
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  - oefrha 6y ago
    While Linux might not be as unstable as everyone makes it out to be, your argument doesn’t support that at all. The point is Valve maintains Proton so that everyone and their mum doesn’t need to maintain their own Linux fork that’ll bitrot. Without an entity maintaining Proton it could stop working in a few months for all we know.
    - axaxs 6y ago
      Yes, and nobody knew how to deploy or use Linux applications until Docker came along and saved us all.
      - oefrha 6y ago
        I for one knew how to deploy Linux applications long before Docker but know nothing about the GPU/graphics stack on Linux which is crucial to game devs, and FWIW I ran into graphics problems when I tried Ubuntu Desktop (yeah, just the vanilla Desktop, not gaming) on my Nvidia GPU last year, so again your snarky response contains no relevant info at all.
brundolf 6y ago
That's really interesting, I hadn't heard that
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Godel_unicode 6y ago

There's a serious rumor that this is what actually killed rocket league on Linux. Why maintain a fork if proton is better anyway?

axaxs 6y ago
Proton is good, but in no measure 'better'. Linux isn't as unstable as everyone makes it out to be. Quite the opposite. Proton still has to work on linux, afterall. If Linux support bitrots quickly, then so does everyone dependent on proton.
- Godel_unicode 6y ago
  Better controller support, especially vibration, and higher frame rates count as measures in my book. Have you tried it?
  - axaxs 6y ago
    Yes absolutely. Proton is a great product. But underneath, it's still Linux. So saying 'Linux support is terrible, Proton is better' makes absolutely zero sense.
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- oefrha 6y ago
  While Linux might not be as unstable as everyone makes it out to be, your argument doesn’t support that at all. The point is Valve maintains Proton so that everyone and their mum doesn’t need to maintain their own Linux fork that’ll bitrot. Without an entity maintaining Proton it could stop working in a few months for all we know.
  - axaxs 6y ago
    Yes, and nobody knew how to deploy or use Linux applications until Docker came along and saved us all.
    - oefrha 6y ago
      I for one knew how to deploy Linux applications long before Docker but know nothing about the GPU/graphics stack on Linux which is crucial to game devs, and FWIW I ran into graphics problems when I tried Ubuntu Desktop (yeah, just the vanilla Desktop, not gaming) on my Nvidia GPU last year, so again your snarky response contains no relevant info at all.

brundolf 6y ago

That's really interesting, I hadn't heard that

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