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https://store.steampowered.com/linux https://store.steampowered.com/linux If a game is going to support Windows + macOS than it isn't much more work to also su

by bjo590 6y ago

https://store.steampowered.com/linux https://store.steampowered.com/linux If a game is going to support Windows + macOS than it isn't much more work to also support Linux these days. There are many games released on Linux every year.

glouwbug 6y ago
That's right, Proton is amazing. I've been playing classics like Rome Total War on my Linux setup
- brundolf 6y ago
  Beyond that, most game devs today use established engines like Unity or Unreal, which typically have one-click build buttons for all major platforms. The level of abstraction has been raised, which affects not only game logic but even things like graphics APIs (DirectX vs Vulkan vs Metal) and packaging (installer, icons, etc). The bar has never been lower to throw in Linux support, even if you don't expect a huge market.
  - beering 6y ago
    I've seen it argued that releasing a Linux version (even using Unity/Unreal) is worse than releasing a Windows version that runs on Proton, because the Windows API is stabler and the Linux version will inevitably bitrot without continual updates.
    - Godel_unicode 6y ago
      There's a serious rumor that this is what actually killed rocket league on Linux. Why maintain a fork if proton is better anyway?
      - axaxs 6y ago
        Proton is good, but in no measure 'better'. Linux isn't as unstable as everyone makes it out to be. Quite the opposite. Proton still has to work on linux, afterall. If Linux support bitrots quickly, then so does everyone dependent on proton.
        Godel_unicode 6y ago
        Better controller support, especially vibration, and higher frame rates count as measures in my book. Have you tried it?
        axaxs 6y ago
        Yes absolutely. Proton is a great product. But underneath, it's still Linux. So saying 'Linux support is terrible, Proton is better' makes absolutely zero sense.
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        oefrha 6y ago
        While Linux might not be as unstable as everyone makes it out to be, your argument doesn’t support that at all. The point is Valve maintains Proton so that everyone and their mum doesn’t need to maintain their own Linux fork that’ll bitrot. Without an entity maintaining Proton it could stop working in a few months for all we know.
        axaxs 6y ago
        Yes, and nobody knew how to deploy or use Linux applications until Docker came along and saved us all.
        6y ago
    - brundolf 6y ago
      That's really interesting, I hadn't heard that
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  - axaxs 6y ago
    It's sad that the CEO behind Unreal, Sweeney, bought Rocket League, which uses Unreal, and promptly removed Linux support.
rendaw 6y ago
Also https://itch.io/games/platform-linux https://itch.io/games/platform-linux

by bjo590 6y ago

glouwbug 6y ago

That's right, Proton is amazing. I've been playing classics like Rome Total War on my Linux setup

brundolf 6y ago
Beyond that, most game devs today use established engines like Unity or Unreal, which typically have one-click build buttons for all major platforms. The level of abstraction has been raised, which affects not only game logic but even things like graphics APIs (DirectX vs Vulkan vs Metal) and packaging (installer, icons, etc). The bar has never been lower to throw in Linux support, even if you don't expect a huge market.
- beering 6y ago
  I've seen it argued that releasing a Linux version (even using Unity/Unreal) is worse than releasing a Windows version that runs on Proton, because the Windows API is stabler and the Linux version will inevitably bitrot without continual updates.
  - Godel_unicode 6y ago
    There's a serious rumor that this is what actually killed rocket league on Linux. Why maintain a fork if proton is better anyway?
    - axaxs 6y ago
      Proton is good, but in no measure 'better'. Linux isn't as unstable as everyone makes it out to be. Quite the opposite. Proton still has to work on linux, afterall. If Linux support bitrots quickly, then so does everyone dependent on proton.
      - Godel_unicode 6y ago
        Better controller support, especially vibration, and higher frame rates count as measures in my book. Have you tried it?
        axaxs 6y ago
        Yes absolutely. Proton is a great product. But underneath, it's still Linux. So saying 'Linux support is terrible, Proton is better' makes absolutely zero sense.
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      - oefrha 6y ago
        While Linux might not be as unstable as everyone makes it out to be, your argument doesn’t support that at all. The point is Valve maintains Proton so that everyone and their mum doesn’t need to maintain their own Linux fork that’ll bitrot. Without an entity maintaining Proton it could stop working in a few months for all we know.
        axaxs 6y ago
        Yes, and nobody knew how to deploy or use Linux applications until Docker came along and saved us all.
        6y ago
  - brundolf 6y ago
    That's really interesting, I hadn't heard that
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- axaxs 6y ago
  It's sad that the CEO behind Unreal, Sweeney, bought Rocket League, which uses Unreal, and promptly removed Linux support.

rendaw 6y ago

Also https://itch.io/games/platform-linux https://itch.io/games/platform-linux