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Or walled gardens that his parent company maintains.
by doytch 6y ago
Or walled gardens that his parent company maintains.
- paulryanrogers 6y agoWhich would those be?
- caycep 6y agoEpic's own game store. They aren't doing this out of the goodness of their heart
- kevingadd 6y agoEpic has been very consistent about wanting the % cut lowered industry wide. It's silly to try and depict the Epic Games Store as malicious: Like it or not, developers keep more of their revenue on that store due to the 12% cut, and if other storefront operators don't like that they can lower their cut. When you choose a storefront as a developer you're choosing who to pay off in exchange for access to their platform and customers, it's that simple. "out of the goodness of their heart" is also a silly way to characterize this positively or negatively: They want a chance to compete with Apple by offering lower costs in exchange for not offering the same feature set as Apple, just like how the EGS on Windows does not offer the same feature set as Steam. They believe developers will pick them due to the lower cut, but that's something the market would decide. Right now the market can't decide, because Apple has decided to prohibit competition. Incidentally Epic made a public promise that if Apple lowered the cut, Apple Pay users would get the same Fortnite discount that people paying directly get.
- paulryanrogers 6y agoHow is their game store a walled garden? It can be installed alongside others on the same hardware. Even their exclusivity agreements are time limited.
- pjmlp 6y agoEpic dictates what goes on there.
- DangitBobby 6y agoBut they cannot dictate what's on your device.
- pjmlp 6y agoLike they cannot dictate on consoles, nor on Symbian, J2ME, Brew, Windows CE/Pocket PC, Blackberry, BluRay, TV set top boxes,... They are just PC spoiled.
- gridlockd 6y agoNot sure what your point is. None of these platforms have ever been relevant enough for anyone to bother with a lawsuit even if it was winnable.
- gridlockd 6y agoEpic is not a subsidiary of Tencent, Tim Sweeney owns a majority stake in the company.
- danShumway 6y agoPeople keep on saying this, but exclusives are not the same thing as a walled garden. You can install games on your PC from any source, and there are over a half-dozen good games distributors you can choose to shop from or sell on. And if none of them work, you can also just buy directly from the developer themselves. If Apple allowed multiple app stores and sideloading on iOS, but pulled in a few exclusives (ie, Apple Arcade) and banned Fortnite from its official store, that would be equivalent to what Epic is doing on the PC with the Epic Store. And that is exactly what Epic wants Apple to do -- it's a completely consistent position for them to take.
- pjmlp 6y agoSo how to do that on a PS4? Yet no lawsuit rather happy marketing demos on how well Unreal will do on PS5.
- hatenberg 6y agoThe absence of previous legal action is not an indication that a practice is legal.
- danShumway 6y agoExactly how many people does Epic have to sue before you'd be satisfied? It is perfectly fine for Epic to focus on suing the companies that are causing them the most trouble right now. Given their relative size compared to these companies, it would be stupid for them to take on everyone at once. They don't have the resources to sue every major player in the entire games industry.