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They don’t really explain it. Did users buy a standalone version of these software and adobe now claims they can’t legally use something they bought?

by adrr 6y ago

whereistimbo 6y ago
Probably it's something in EULA that Adobe grant user licence to use the software that might be revocable under certain permission like this one.
- whereistimbo 6y ago
  http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055904/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIc1-wxSJgpNoJkkukIFnR2w7DeBktDTI&disable_polymer=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055904/https://www.youtub... http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055750/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIc1-wxSJgpNqpxNxSjs7dYXTVMOn9quR&disable_polymer=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055750/https://www.youtub...
  - whereistimbo 6y ago
    https://archive.vn/8BVpc https://archive.vn/8BVpc
  - whereistimbo 6y ago
    http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518/https://cdn.website-editor.net/749ffac5dc394e8c811205a3fd72ff17/files/uploaded/Asana%2520Pranayama%2520Mudra%2520Banda.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518/https://cdn.websit...
    - whereistimbo 6y ago
      http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518if_/https://cdn.website-editor.net/749ffac5dc394e8c811205a3fd72ff17/files/uploaded/Asana%2520Pranayama%2520Mudra%2520Banda.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518if_/https://cdn.web...
kmeisthax 6y ago
Part of your Creative Cloud license is insurance/indemnification against third-party infringement claims. That is, if Adobe were to pirate someone else's software, and then that person decided to sue you for copyright infringement, Adobe would defend you. What happened is that Adobe pirated someone else's software - specifically, Dolby's. They slathered surround-sound support into all their apps, but used very questionable accounting methods to avoid paying for all that licensing. For example, if they added 5.1 support to Premiere, they'd only count it as a "sale" if you actually opened Premiere and used that particular feature. This is a blatant license violation. Creative Cloud used to have a feature where you could install old versions of their software, all the way back to CS6. Of course, if Dolby's lawsuit worked out, each version you installed could count as a separate license violation. Hence, they took away that very generous old version support and said you only get the latest version and last year's version. As one of the developers for Ruffle, this absolutely sucks, because there is no Adobe-sanctioned way to generate test Flash movies with ActionScript 2 code anymore. That support was removed when they released the first Creative Cloud version of Flash, which is already many years old and also not provided by Adobe anymore.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  > For example, if they added 5.1 support to Premiere, they'd only count it as a "sale" if you actually opened Premiere and used that particular feature. This is a blatant license violation. I wouldn't say 'blatant'. That seems like a reasonable tactic in a vacuum. I guess they could have made it a separate download and install when you click that menu option, but the end result would be the same.
  - Reelin 6y ago
    If it's a free download it still might not fly. I suspect they would have to charge a reasonable fee for providing the specific functionality in order for that approach to work (otherwise the only "sale" was that of the original software).
    - Dylan16807 6y ago

They don’t really explain it. Did users buy a standalone version of these software and adobe now claims they can’t legally use something they bought?

by adrr 6y ago

They don’t really explain it. Did users buy a standalone version of these software and adobe now claims they can’t legally use something they bought?

whereistimbo 6y ago

Probably it's something in EULA that Adobe grant user licence to use the software that might be revocable under certain permission like this one.

whereistimbo 6y ago
http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055904/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIc1-wxSJgpNoJkkukIFnR2w7DeBktDTI&disable_polymer=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055904/https://www.youtub... http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055750/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIc1-wxSJgpNqpxNxSjs7dYXTVMOn9quR&disable_polymer=1 http://web.archive.org/web/20200823055750/https://www.youtub...
- whereistimbo 6y ago
  https://archive.vn/8BVpc https://archive.vn/8BVpc
- whereistimbo 6y ago
  http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518/https://cdn.website-editor.net/749ffac5dc394e8c811205a3fd72ff17/files/uploaded/Asana%2520Pranayama%2520Mudra%2520Banda.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518/https://cdn.websit...
  - whereistimbo 6y ago
    http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518if_/https://cdn.website-editor.net/749ffac5dc394e8c811205a3fd72ff17/files/uploaded/Asana%2520Pranayama%2520Mudra%2520Banda.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20200825074518if_/https://cdn.web...

kmeisthax 6y ago

Part of your Creative Cloud license is insurance/indemnification against third-party infringement claims. That is, if Adobe were to pirate someone else's software, and then that person decided to sue you for copyright infringement, Adobe would defend you. What happened is that Adobe pirated someone else's software - specifically, Dolby's. They slathered surround-sound support into all their apps, but used very questionable accounting methods to avoid paying for all that licensing. For example, if they added 5.1 support to Premiere, they'd only count it as a "sale" if you actually opened Premiere and used that particular feature. This is a blatant license violation. Creative Cloud used to have a feature where you could install old versions of their software, all the way back to CS6. Of course, if Dolby's lawsuit worked out, each version you installed could count as a separate license violation. Hence, they took away that very generous old version support and said you only get the latest version and last year's version. As one of the developers for Ruffle, this absolutely sucks, because there is no Adobe-sanctioned way to generate test Flash movies with ActionScript 2 code anymore. That support was removed when they released the first Creative Cloud version of Flash, which is already many years old and also not provided by Adobe anymore.

Dylan16807 6y ago
> For example, if they added 5.1 support to Premiere, they'd only count it as a "sale" if you actually opened Premiere and used that particular feature. This is a blatant license violation. I wouldn't say 'blatant'. That seems like a reasonable tactic in a vacuum. I guess they could have made it a separate download and install when you click that menu option, but the end result would be the same.
- Reelin 6y ago
  If it's a free download it still might not fly. I suspect they would have to charge a reasonable fee for providing the specific functionality in order for that approach to work (otherwise the only "sale" was that of the original software).
  - Dylan16807 6y ago