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There always were a lot of propaganda involved since forever. Even now Russia is demonised in Western Media, mostly quite unfair.
by vogre 6y ago
There always were a lot of propaganda involved since forever. Even now Russia is demonised in Western Media, mostly quite unfair.
- leokennis 6y agoCan you give an example where Russia is portrayed unfairly?
- bredren 6y agoI too am interested in examples. Typically, instead I see straw man “western governments do bad things too” to deflect.
- vogre 6y agoYou may start with this article https://medium.com/@dominicbasulto/russophobia-and-the-dark-art-of-making-an-anti-russian-magazine-cover-94b11e32d53f https://medium.com/@dominicbasulto/russophobia-and-the-dark-... It has some great images, especially in the final part.
- gowld 6y agoThat's negative portrayal of a violent corrupt dictatorship.
- vogre 6y agoIt started long before Putin and long before communists.
- avmich 6y agoBut things changed - Russia is much more known - while something remained the same - perception of the threat. Only now there are causes for that, so the article isn't accurate, portraying West as being "unnaturally" negative to Russia. West is negative for specific reasons, something which the article fails to address.
- thrwway34 6y agoI think I read similar piece when they tried to shuffle their shooting of MH-17 and point the finger on Ukraine. Turns out to be propaganda as well.
- galkk 6y agoHow about this https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/30/20938550/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-highway-of-death-controversy https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/30/20938550/call-of-duty-mod... Tl;dr American army did carnage, the (one of most popular) game portraits that Russians did that Or entire company of heroes 2 controversy This is pure propaganda
- cmrdporcupine 6y agoNot sure why you're getting downvoted. That's an awful story.
- boo_boo 6y agoFormer Director of National Intelligence James Clapper on Russians in 2017: "...the Russians, who typically, almost genetically driven to co-opt, penetrate, gain favor..." [1] [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/james-clapper-trump-russia-ties-my-dashboard-warning-light-was-n765601 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/james-clapper...
- m0zg 6y agoSays the habitual liar James Clapper who verifiably lied under oath several times.
- sam_lowry_ 6y agoWas he punished for it?
- m0zg 6y agoOf course not. None of these deep state fucks are ever punished for anything.
- knolax 6y agoAny action movie where the bad guys are stereotypical Russians? The way Russians and their culture are disparaged in media? I remember reading a WaPo article where some old lady was telling political canvassers to fuck off, and the entire time the article was fixating on her "Russian accent" and saying things like "this isn't russia we have democracy here". Really despicable racism.
- analognoise 6y agoWhy would they demonize a place that throws doctors out of windows, poisons political opponents, kills journalists, and has a horrible reputation for LGBT rights? Weird, right? /s
- petersellers 6y agoNot to mention actively trying to meddle with US elections.
- DFHippie 6y agoAnd Brexit, and French and German elections, and shoot down Dutch airlines, etc.
- vogre 6y agoYou see, when anything go wrong in the world it's Russia's fault:) Especially if someone loses some elections - blame Russia 100% of the time.
- king_magic 6y agoExcept... those things explicitly are Russia's fault. You can keep pretending Russia is a benevolent member of the international community all you want, but that simply does not make it true.
- ben_w 6y agoI’ve previously heard that claim about Brexit, but not about the other three. Even then, despite being so Remain-y I moved to Berlin, I don’t see how Russia made enough of a difference to count as successfully interfering compared to all the decisions taken by Cameron up to the day of the referendum itself.
- mcsb4 6y agoWell, the US is since WWII meddling with elections in other countries. And not only that but actively toppling foreign governments. The few millions some Russians may have spent on ads are a drop in the sea compared to the billions and billions that PACs and SuperPACs have spent.
- mhh__ 6y agoGiven that Russia has used a nerve agent near where I live I'll give the media a pass on demonising Russia.
- mcsb4 6y agoI don't know what happened there but the official version leaves some serious doubts open. For example there was a long time talk of a "nurse" that found them. Only by accident it was revealed that this nurse was the head-nurse of the UK forces, i.e. in the rank of a general, well versed in chemical warfare. Also why was never the full tracks of the two Russians the victims revealed? There is CCTV on every corner in the UK. The story of the Russians was bogus but so is the official story. It wouldn't be the first time the gov stretches the truth. See for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony Edit: downvoting because it doesn't fit your world view? At least have the balls to reply.
- mhh__ 6y agoThe official story would always be vague. This is spook territory not regular police. A Scotland Yard team went to interview Litvinenko's assassins (One of whom was being treated for radiation poisoning - fancy that!), and they were completely outgunned by the FSB. Also, as to CCTV, it is extremely prevalent in London but not as omniscient in places like Salisbury. Security services sit on information like this for years, possibly never to reach daylight i.e. it's at best 50/50 whether MI5's director(Hollis) in the 50s and 60s was a double agent for the GRU, but we will never know what is in the archives. It is undeniable, however, that the Russian's did it - a Russian nerve agent just happens to turn up in the middle of Salisbury!?
- HenryKissinger 6y ago> A Scotland Yard team went to interview Litvinenko's assassins (One of whom was being treated for radiation poisoning - fancy that!), and they were completely outgunned by the FSB. Source?
- rasz 6y agoAs someone who was born and grew up under Russian occupation I can assure you everyone on the inside of Iron Curtain was aware how bad it was even back then.
- Glavnokoman 6y agoAs someone speaking for everyone you sound stupid.