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The website is user-hostile; if you accept the Advertisements it attempts to set a cookie which the Firefox tracking protection layer won't allow to happen, res

The website is user-hostile; if you accept the Advertisements it attempts to set a cookie which the Firefox tracking protection layer won't allow to happen, resulting in an error and no article access.

MichaelApproved 6y ago
Is that FF tracking protection turned on by default?
- marcosdumay 6y ago
  Yes, it's on by default. There is a site-wide off switch if you know where to look, but I doubt most people would find it.
bzb4 6y ago
Of course, if your browser is not standards compliant (no cookies) then you have to expect websites not to work.
- alpaca128 6y ago
  If a simple news article cannot be displayed without cookies, scripts or CSS the failure is not on the client side. Something went seriously wrong if a beginner with 15 minutes of HTML experience can create a better performing, more usable site imho.
  - bzb4 6y ago
    Journalists have bills to pay.
    - natch 6y ago
      Is having bills to pay a valid excuse for any and all bad behavior?
      - liability 6y ago
        In the movie Thank You For Smoking a tobacco industry spokesman calls it the 'Yuppie Nuremberg Defense.' Instead of "I had orders" it's "I had a mortgage."
    - alpaca128 6y ago
      Both paywalls and ads are possible without any cookies, scripts or tracking.
    - jacquesm 6y ago
      That website wasn't made by journalists, but by their bosses. If the news is going to be 'for pay' only then effectively being informed equates to being wealthy and the not so wealthy will be preyed on by the 'fake news' department, because to them spreading the news is the business. So there is a very strong case to be made for keeping news free for the masses, even when they run adblockers.
      - bzb4 6y ago
        Okay, who’s going to pay for that?
        katmannthree 6y ago
        One way or another we all will.
- gravitas 6y ago
  This was never stated (no cookies), the tracking protection layer blocks cross-site and social media cookies amongst other bad ideas. This browser has hundreds of active, working, viable cookies in play (to include HackerNews login) -- it is this specific website which is incorrect for trying to use a known-malicious cookie setting technique in 2020 and violate my rights to privacy.
  - floatingatoll 6y ago
    Please open a Webcompat issue; if it's breaking in Firefox, it may be breaking in development versions of other browsers as well. https://webcompat.com/issues/new https://webcompat.com/issues/new
MaxBarraclough 6y ago
Fire up a Private Browsing session and let it install whatever cookies it likes. Not that this option makes it any less user-hostile.

MichaelApproved 6y ago

Is that FF tracking protection turned on by default?

marcosdumay 6y ago
Yes, it's on by default. There is a site-wide off switch if you know where to look, but I doubt most people would find it.

bzb4 6y ago

Of course, if your browser is not standards compliant (no cookies) then you have to expect websites not to work.

alpaca128 6y ago
If a simple news article cannot be displayed without cookies, scripts or CSS the failure is not on the client side. Something went seriously wrong if a beginner with 15 minutes of HTML experience can create a better performing, more usable site imho.
- bzb4 6y ago
  Journalists have bills to pay.
  - natch 6y ago
    Is having bills to pay a valid excuse for any and all bad behavior?
    - liability 6y ago
      In the movie Thank You For Smoking a tobacco industry spokesman calls it the 'Yuppie Nuremberg Defense.' Instead of "I had orders" it's "I had a mortgage."
  - alpaca128 6y ago
    Both paywalls and ads are possible without any cookies, scripts or tracking.
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    That website wasn't made by journalists, but by their bosses. If the news is going to be 'for pay' only then effectively being informed equates to being wealthy and the not so wealthy will be preyed on by the 'fake news' department, because to them spreading the news is the business. So there is a very strong case to be made for keeping news free for the masses, even when they run adblockers.
    - bzb4 6y ago
      Okay, who’s going to pay for that?
      - katmannthree 6y ago
        One way or another we all will.
gravitas 6y ago
This was never stated (no cookies), the tracking protection layer blocks cross-site and social media cookies amongst other bad ideas. This browser has hundreds of active, working, viable cookies in play (to include HackerNews login) -- it is this specific website which is incorrect for trying to use a known-malicious cookie setting technique in 2020 and violate my rights to privacy.
- floatingatoll 6y ago
  Please open a Webcompat issue; if it's breaking in Firefox, it may be breaking in development versions of other browsers as well. https://webcompat.com/issues/new https://webcompat.com/issues/new

MaxBarraclough 6y ago

Fire up a Private Browsing session and let it install whatever cookies it likes. Not that this option makes it any less user-hostile.