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Huh, so Indian media has misery-porn-framed-as-supposedly-uplifting-news stuff too.

by crooked-v 6y ago

ayyy 6y ago
Is it really that? Can a native speaker give context?
- alexbanks 6y ago
  I didn't read and don't want to spread misinformation. Disregard.
  - toast0 6y ago
    It wasn't a medical exam. This was a school exam; I didn't get all the context, but probably a placement/entrance exam.
    - devdas 6y ago
      No, the 10th class exams are high school graduation. This is incredibly competitive, and the grades you get here will affect what jobs, trade schools and colleges you get access to.
  - ayyy 6y ago
    GP or the author of the article? I understand what the article meant (it was a school exam btw), I just didn't know if it was being presented as a sad story or an "uplifting news". It's impossible to tell from the translation.
    - ffpip 6y ago
      Yes. It was presented as poor person does this, overcomes massive difficulties, while the govt doesnt address difficulties, etc. I can read Hindi
    - alexbanks 6y ago
      Sorry - I didn't read the article - I was mostly trying to translate what (I incorrectly thought) the person you responded to was trying to say. I apologize.
  - manigandham 6y ago
    It wasn't about medical treatment. He was taking his son for a school test so that he wouldn't have to waste a year. Education is critical to climbing out of poverty there. Also this isn't a normal situation. They usually take a bus or train, but public transportation is shutdown because of covid which is why they traveled on a bike.
    - alexbanks 6y ago
      My mistake. Was trying to translate (and very clearly didn't read).
jakecopp 6y ago
Ah yes, see the FB group "This isn’t wholesome, this is the Capitalist Dystopia" [1] for more examples of this in the US. [1]: https://www.facebook.com/groups/709692249462801/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/709692249462801/
letitgo12345 6y ago
Maybe the reason some Asians are successful given the opportunities is because such stories are thought of as uplifting instead of lamenting against the system. The system is bad but what's wrong with celebrating and finding inspiration from people who beat it?
- shirakawasuna 6y ago
  Adding model minority rhetoric to misery porn isn't going to make things better...
  - ngngngng 6y ago
    They made half of a good point though
  - rudiv 6y ago
    It's strange because if Asians are so successful why are so many people around me in Asia destitute? :sweat_smile: I could have sworn my country still faces poverty on a level unknown in the Western world for almost a century.
imgabe 6y ago
Some people complain about the system, some people take action and improve their lives however they can. Sure, "we" should fix the system, but good luck waiting around for that to happen.
Aunche 6y ago
What you're calling misery is literally just life for half of the world.
- crooked-v 6y ago
  There's a difference between recognizing hardship and celebrating it as if it were a good thing, and the American variety of dystopic 'uplifting' news generally does the latter.
econcon 6y ago
The system is actually very insensitive towards such people and guess what? When these people struggle hard, clear all test - they go for robbing the nation with corruption and their justification for that has always been "when I was struggling and poor, no one came to my rescue now it's my turn and I deserve all the money accured through corruption" and it creates more poverty. Poor people don't study to join Google or Facebook in India. They study for government jobs like customs officer, railway officer, Indian adminstrative service, Indian Police Service etc... all jobs where you can accure vast sums of money. The amount of money these officers make offrecord is going to eyewater even westerners. In some cases, the wealth they posses rival even high end executives at Google and Facebook. Most people understand and acknowledge this system. They know the only way to out is through it, they stay in system - stay hard, make connections then proceed to benefit from corrupt system.
- Temasik 6y ago
  100% this that's why Indians are leaving india and be CEOs for Microsoft and Google I'm just telling you like it is... it's not our business to fix others really...
- rudiv 6y ago
  Do you know a lot of civil service officers? Because you seem to think that the ranks of the Union public services are mostly filled with highly corrupt officers who were born into poverty. Whereas the truth is that although I know some officers who were the first to get a degree or a high school certificate in their family, I also know of many more officers who come from the upper class, and even some who've been in colonial administration for generations.
  - econcon 6y ago
    >Do you know a lot of civil service officers? Not saying most are corrupt but my experience with customs department, tax department etc... made me realize how corrupt they are. Which does not refute the point I am making because a few corrupt people are enough to take down the system.
drevil-v2 6y ago
This is what annoys me so much about the current protests in the US. These delicate flowers rioting and blocking traffic and destroying buildings/statues don't have any idea how good they have in the United States. And these children want to tear it all down? Entitled brats who have never faced real adversity in their short lives.
rudiv 6y ago
Oh, by the truckload. The more the misery, the more the misery porn. A few weeks after the lockdown started, there was a story about a ~13 year old girl pulling her injured father on a cart with her bicycle ~1000km home to their village. The Indian Cycling Federation offered her cycle training, and it trended on Twitter.

Huh, so Indian media has misery-porn-framed-as-supposedly-uplifting-news stuff too.

ayyy 6y ago

Is it really that? Can a native speaker give context?

alexbanks 6y ago
I didn't read and don't want to spread misinformation. Disregard.
- toast0 6y ago
  It wasn't a medical exam. This was a school exam; I didn't get all the context, but probably a placement/entrance exam.
  - devdas 6y ago
    No, the 10th class exams are high school graduation. This is incredibly competitive, and the grades you get here will affect what jobs, trade schools and colleges you get access to.
- ayyy 6y ago
  GP or the author of the article? I understand what the article meant (it was a school exam btw), I just didn't know if it was being presented as a sad story or an "uplifting news". It's impossible to tell from the translation.
  - ffpip 6y ago
    Yes. It was presented as poor person does this, overcomes massive difficulties, while the govt doesnt address difficulties, etc. I can read Hindi
  - alexbanks 6y ago
    Sorry - I didn't read the article - I was mostly trying to translate what (I incorrectly thought) the person you responded to was trying to say. I apologize.
- manigandham 6y ago
  It wasn't about medical treatment. He was taking his son for a school test so that he wouldn't have to waste a year. Education is critical to climbing out of poverty there. Also this isn't a normal situation. They usually take a bus or train, but public transportation is shutdown because of covid which is why they traveled on a bike.
  - alexbanks 6y ago
    My mistake. Was trying to translate (and very clearly didn't read).

jakecopp 6y ago

Ah yes, see the FB group "This isn’t wholesome, this is the Capitalist Dystopia" [1] for more examples of this in the US. [1]: https://www.facebook.com/groups/709692249462801/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/709692249462801/

letitgo12345 6y ago

Maybe the reason some Asians are successful given the opportunities is because such stories are thought of as uplifting instead of lamenting against the system. The system is bad but what's wrong with celebrating and finding inspiration from people who beat it?

shirakawasuna 6y ago
Adding model minority rhetoric to misery porn isn't going to make things better...
- ngngngng 6y ago
  They made half of a good point though
- rudiv 6y ago
  It's strange because if Asians are so successful why are so many people around me in Asia destitute? :sweat_smile: I could have sworn my country still faces poverty on a level unknown in the Western world for almost a century.

imgabe 6y ago

Some people complain about the system, some people take action and improve their lives however they can. Sure, "we" should fix the system, but good luck waiting around for that to happen.

Aunche 6y ago

What you're calling misery is literally just life for half of the world.

crooked-v 6y ago
There's a difference between recognizing hardship and celebrating it as if it were a good thing, and the American variety of dystopic 'uplifting' news generally does the latter.

econcon 6y ago

The system is actually very insensitive towards such people and guess what? When these people struggle hard, clear all test - they go for robbing the nation with corruption and their justification for that has always been "when I was struggling and poor, no one came to my rescue now it's my turn and I deserve all the money accured through corruption" and it creates more poverty. Poor people don't study to join Google or Facebook in India. They study for government jobs like customs officer, railway officer, Indian adminstrative service, Indian Police Service etc... all jobs where you can accure vast sums of money. The amount of money these officers make offrecord is going to eyewater even westerners. In some cases, the wealth they posses rival even high end executives at Google and Facebook. Most people understand and acknowledge this system. They know the only way to out is through it, they stay in system - stay hard, make connections then proceed to benefit from corrupt system.

Temasik 6y ago
100% this that's why Indians are leaving india and be CEOs for Microsoft and Google I'm just telling you like it is... it's not our business to fix others really...
rudiv 6y ago
Do you know a lot of civil service officers? Because you seem to think that the ranks of the Union public services are mostly filled with highly corrupt officers who were born into poverty. Whereas the truth is that although I know some officers who were the first to get a degree or a high school certificate in their family, I also know of many more officers who come from the upper class, and even some who've been in colonial administration for generations.
- econcon 6y ago
  >Do you know a lot of civil service officers? Not saying most are corrupt but my experience with customs department, tax department etc... made me realize how corrupt they are. Which does not refute the point I am making because a few corrupt people are enough to take down the system.

drevil-v2 6y ago

This is what annoys me so much about the current protests in the US. These delicate flowers rioting and blocking traffic and destroying buildings/statues don't have any idea how good they have in the United States. And these children want to tear it all down? Entitled brats who have never faced real adversity in their short lives.

rudiv 6y ago

Oh, by the truckload. The more the misery, the more the misery porn. A few weeks after the lockdown started, there was a story about a ~13 year old girl pulling her injured father on a cart with her bicycle ~1000km home to their village. The Indian Cycling Federation offered her cycle training, and it trended on Twitter.