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They've already effectively prohibited it because, as you can see from the article, installing software that doesn't go through Apple is made incredibly painful

They've already effectively prohibited it because, as you can see from the article, installing software that doesn't go through Apple is made incredibly painful and essentially nobody will succeed in doing it. Apple doesn't really care that you can run it by using a bunch of workarounds if they have 99.9% control over all software distribution.

read_if_gay_ 6y ago
> installing software that doesn't go through Apple is made incredibly painful and essentially nobody will succeed in doing it. Come on. It’s literally five mouse clicks.
- stickfigure 6y ago
  ...and if they forget that, they can just edit the source code in "command.com" https://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-01 https://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-01
  - read_if_gay_ 6y ago
    GP is basically arguing it's impossible to run arbitrary software which is BS. It's not as simple as it could be, but Apple didn't prohibit it, they just hid it behind a few menus. And if you are too incompetent to click through these then you probably shouldn't be running arbitrary software. That's why the comic does not really apply here IMO.
    - stickfigure 6y ago
      Anything that would send me to stackoverflow (or any other stackexchange site) should be considered effectively impossible for normal users.
      - read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        Impossible for normal users is not generally impossible though. You have to specify that. Or else a lot of things would be impossible.
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  There's no way in hell that a casual user like my parents would to be able to figure out which 5 mouse clicks to do (without direct guidance) Even the documentation doesn't tell you to right click.
  - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
    That's generally a good thing. If they don't know their way around the system then you probably don't want them installing software.
    - Rebelgecko 6y ago
      They're competent enough to install software, they just don't explore a lot in the UI. If they can't figure out how to do something with what's in front of them, they have a tendency to assume it can't be done. In other words, if they click on an app and the only options are "Move to Trash" and "Cancel", they're going to assume that their only options are moving the app to the trash or cancelling
      - ralfd 6y ago
        Which is the intended goal as they will never install malware.
        zaarn 6y ago
        And no open source software either unless the authors cough up the apple tax.
        read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        Not too relevant here, but I think the main thing keeping regular people from installing open source software is that most OSS is an unpolished usability nightmare compared to commercial counterparts.

read_if_gay_ 6y ago

> installing software that doesn't go through Apple is made incredibly painful and essentially nobody will succeed in doing it. Come on. It’s literally five mouse clicks.

stickfigure 6y ago
...and if they forget that, they can just edit the source code in "command.com" https://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-01 https://dilbert.com/strip/1994-02-01
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  GP is basically arguing it's impossible to run arbitrary software which is BS. It's not as simple as it could be, but Apple didn't prohibit it, they just hid it behind a few menus. And if you are too incompetent to click through these then you probably shouldn't be running arbitrary software. That's why the comic does not really apply here IMO.
  - stickfigure 6y ago
    Anything that would send me to stackoverflow (or any other stackexchange site) should be considered effectively impossible for normal users.
    - read_if_gay_ 6y ago
      Impossible for normal users is not generally impossible though. You have to specify that. Or else a lot of things would be impossible.
Rebelgecko 6y ago
There's no way in hell that a casual user like my parents would to be able to figure out which 5 mouse clicks to do (without direct guidance) Even the documentation doesn't tell you to right click.
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  That's generally a good thing. If they don't know their way around the system then you probably don't want them installing software.
  - Rebelgecko 6y ago
    They're competent enough to install software, they just don't explore a lot in the UI. If they can't figure out how to do something with what's in front of them, they have a tendency to assume it can't be done. In other words, if they click on an app and the only options are "Move to Trash" and "Cancel", they're going to assume that their only options are moving the app to the trash or cancelling
    - ralfd 6y ago
      Which is the intended goal as they will never install malware.
      - zaarn 6y ago
        And no open source software either unless the authors cough up the apple tax.
        read_if_gay_ 6y ago
        Not too relevant here, but I think the main thing keeping regular people from installing open source software is that most OSS is an unpolished usability nightmare compared to commercial counterparts.