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Wow. Agree with all the other comments. I read the whole article, and there is some next level self-centered entitlement here that has wholly passed on to "Raff

Wow. Agree with all the other comments. I read the whole article, and there is some next level self-centered entitlement here that has wholly passed on to "Raffi" the 5 year old who is only now learning not to deliberately make his little brother cry, and who has learned that spitting his drink on a laptop makes mommy and daddy take him to the park. While I want to empathize with the parents, the fact that they blame remote learning for all their problems rather than realizing that they have raised a hellion and dumped him on the poor teachers at school... and are bitter that now they have to deal with their own child... wow... yeah, definitely not the parents problem. Everything is to blame on remote learning! We better re-open the schools again so parents don't have to deal with their children!

supergeek133 6y ago
Yeah, I'm really missing the message here.
bosswipe 6y ago
> they have raised a hellion A five year old is far from having been raised. As a parent of a 6 year old I know a bunch of other parents that have similar experiences where their kids are revolting against being forced to sit in front of a virtual teacher for hours every day.
- Shorel 6y ago
  You can't fix much of that stuff after he is 7 years old. Educate the child so you don't have to jail the adult. At least that's the common wisdom grandmothers say in my country. Some study I found that also mentions the seven-year milestone: https://news.softpedia.com/news/Our-Personality-Is-Fully-Developed-By-the-Age-of-7-151093.shtml https://news.softpedia.com/news/Our-Personality-Is-Fully-Dev...
  - danShumway 6y ago
    The common wisdom is wrong. Of course personalities develop after 7 years old. People's personalities develop well into adulthood. Adults are capable of developing, continuing to mature, and changing their behaviors. Who I was at age 7 is not who I am today. Who I was at age 18 is not who I am today. Do people really think that anyone who fights with a sibling past the age of 7 is destined for prison? I guess I need to start making a plan for when I'm arrested.
  - james_s_tayler 6y ago
    Well about 1/4 of the prison population has ADHD and half are dyslexic. Female prison populations also have a very high rate of BPD. The grandmother's where you're from might benefit from learning about pervasive developmental disorders and the effects of trauma. Some people are dealing with stuff that isn't their fault and that they never got adequate support for.
    - lucb1e 6y ago
      BPD is "Borderline personality disorder", for anyone else not familiar with that TLA.
throwaways885 6y ago
Maybe have have some empathy for the parents who are working from home, before you start insulting their parenting? Of course the 7 year old is acting out, but it's probably more to do with being stuck in a box/house all day with no interaction with their friends. And no, Zoom calls don't class as interaction for kids. This child desperately needs to play outside, not stuck behind a blurry screen learning maths.
- codefreakxff 6y ago
  I do work from home, and my 10 year old is doing remote learning. There are many benefits to remote learning, and I know it will come as a shock to people who buy into the 'kids need to socialize' group-think, but the 'socializing' they do in school tends to be very limited in time (a couple of 10-15 minute breaks on the playground, talking at lunch, disrupting classes and not listening to the teacher), and then there is the problem of bullying and cliques of students excluding 'non-conforming' students. Mental health at school isn't handled well. Fairness is out the window. School shootings are growing exponentially. https://www.ecori.org/public-safety/2019/9/7/us-school-shootings-just-the-facts https://www.ecori.org/public-safety/2019/9/7/us-school-shoot... Schools suck. I'd rather my child get his socializing from extracurricular activities with peers he knows and gets along with than dealing with the failures of our educational system. This article decries remote learning and offers nothing to move the conversation forward on what WOULD work. The author makes no point at all other than complaining about how her child can't sit still. And I'm saying I bet her child can't sit still in a physical school either, so its not about remote learning. It is because suddenly she has to be the one to deal with it instead of the teacher hidden away in a school building. The author wants to paint a picture of how bad remote learning is, when really it's just not suited for her child. It works fine for many other kids.
  - throwaways885 6y ago
    Schools do suck, but those 15+60 minutes free time and all class time (which is inherently social) are SO incredibly valuable. > This article decries remote learning and offers nothing to move the conversation forward on what WOULD work. The author makes no point at all other than complaining about how her child can't sit still. And I'm saying I bet her child can't sit still in a physical school either, so its not about remote learning. Agreed, though I'd put that down to schools being un-engaging and useless and that gets _worse_ with remote. I'd be in favour of making 30-40% of the school day free time, like it is in high school. For knowledge work like learning, more hours doesn't necessarily mean more output, and it's really destructive to put that onto students.
asldkjaslkdj 6y ago
This isn't unusual stuff for a 5 year old...

supergeek133 6y ago

Yeah, I'm really missing the message here.

bosswipe 6y ago

> they have raised a hellion A five year old is far from having been raised. As a parent of a 6 year old I know a bunch of other parents that have similar experiences where their kids are revolting against being forced to sit in front of a virtual teacher for hours every day.

Shorel 6y ago
You can't fix much of that stuff after he is 7 years old. Educate the child so you don't have to jail the adult. At least that's the common wisdom grandmothers say in my country. Some study I found that also mentions the seven-year milestone: https://news.softpedia.com/news/Our-Personality-Is-Fully-Developed-By-the-Age-of-7-151093.shtml https://news.softpedia.com/news/Our-Personality-Is-Fully-Dev...
- danShumway 6y ago
  The common wisdom is wrong. Of course personalities develop after 7 years old. People's personalities develop well into adulthood. Adults are capable of developing, continuing to mature, and changing their behaviors. Who I was at age 7 is not who I am today. Who I was at age 18 is not who I am today. Do people really think that anyone who fights with a sibling past the age of 7 is destined for prison? I guess I need to start making a plan for when I'm arrested.
- james_s_tayler 6y ago
  Well about 1/4 of the prison population has ADHD and half are dyslexic. Female prison populations also have a very high rate of BPD. The grandmother's where you're from might benefit from learning about pervasive developmental disorders and the effects of trauma. Some people are dealing with stuff that isn't their fault and that they never got adequate support for.
  - lucb1e 6y ago
    BPD is "Borderline personality disorder", for anyone else not familiar with that TLA.

throwaways885 6y ago

Maybe have have some empathy for the parents who are working from home, before you start insulting their parenting? Of course the 7 year old is acting out, but it's probably more to do with being stuck in a box/house all day with no interaction with their friends. And no, Zoom calls don't class as interaction for kids. This child desperately needs to play outside, not stuck behind a blurry screen learning maths.

codefreakxff 6y ago
I do work from home, and my 10 year old is doing remote learning. There are many benefits to remote learning, and I know it will come as a shock to people who buy into the 'kids need to socialize' group-think, but the 'socializing' they do in school tends to be very limited in time (a couple of 10-15 minute breaks on the playground, talking at lunch, disrupting classes and not listening to the teacher), and then there is the problem of bullying and cliques of students excluding 'non-conforming' students. Mental health at school isn't handled well. Fairness is out the window. School shootings are growing exponentially. https://www.ecori.org/public-safety/2019/9/7/us-school-shootings-just-the-facts https://www.ecori.org/public-safety/2019/9/7/us-school-shoot... Schools suck. I'd rather my child get his socializing from extracurricular activities with peers he knows and gets along with than dealing with the failures of our educational system. This article decries remote learning and offers nothing to move the conversation forward on what WOULD work. The author makes no point at all other than complaining about how her child can't sit still. And I'm saying I bet her child can't sit still in a physical school either, so its not about remote learning. It is because suddenly she has to be the one to deal with it instead of the teacher hidden away in a school building. The author wants to paint a picture of how bad remote learning is, when really it's just not suited for her child. It works fine for many other kids.
- throwaways885 6y ago
  Schools do suck, but those 15+60 minutes free time and all class time (which is inherently social) are SO incredibly valuable. > This article decries remote learning and offers nothing to move the conversation forward on what WOULD work. The author makes no point at all other than complaining about how her child can't sit still. And I'm saying I bet her child can't sit still in a physical school either, so its not about remote learning. Agreed, though I'd put that down to schools being un-engaging and useless and that gets _worse_ with remote. I'd be in favour of making 30-40% of the school day free time, like it is in high school. For knowledge work like learning, more hours doesn't necessarily mean more output, and it's really destructive to put that onto students.

asldkjaslkdj 6y ago

This isn't unusual stuff for a 5 year old...