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But you know that you can be a carrier and infect less healthy people right?

nradov 6y ago
Asymptomatic transmission, while possible, is rare. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671
- raverbashing 6y ago
  If it was, we wouldn't be in this situation (and the article doesn't say anything about asymptomatic transmission, only that 8% of secondary infected people were asymptomatic)
- mkolodny 6y ago
  "Of these 127 [COVID-19 cases], 8 (6.3% [CI, 2.1% to 10.5%]) were asymptomatic. Of the 119 symptomatic cases, 20 (16.8%) were defined as mild, 87 (73.1%) as moderate, and 12 (10.1%) as severe or critical." 6.3% of transmissions being asymptomatic doesn't sound rare to me. Also, the 89.9% of people with mild or moderate cases may still not realize they have covid, and spread it.
  - Rapzid 6y ago
    It's also worth noting that there is confusion between "asymptomatic" and "pre-symptomatic". In the health industry apparently "asymptomatic" means you never present symptoms, however you can be "pre-symptomatic"(meaning you will present symptoms) and spread the disease as well. The media had been using "asymptomatic" to mean both, but then a study came out saying it was rare and blah blah blah. Should I be surprised how many people on HN have resorted to conspiracy theories, accusations of malice, and discreditation over changing and mixed information? We live in a world of changing requirements but somehow changing recommendations based on new and changing information is all the evidence we need to indulge ourselves in confirmation bias?
polote 6y ago
Then lets lockdown and force people who are less healthy to take all the steps to protect themselves, and leave alone the healty ones ?
- jurassic 6y ago
  Vulnerable people have needs that are supplied by the broader community (food, medicines, medical care, etc) so it's impossible to fully isolate vulnerable populations.
  - polote 6y ago
    let's do like, china and directly deliver food to them. Every citizen of the us has been sent a 1200 check, US is able to fund a service like that also
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      $1200 check sent out like 4 months ago. That money is long gone.
- tomc1985 6y ago
  So... segregation? Something tells me that won't really fly
  - recursive 6y ago
    Having or being vulnerable to a virus isn't a protected class.
    - extra88 6y ago
      People with disabilities are in a protected class. Being immunocompromised qualifies as a disability. Here's a brief definition, from a government site about equal employment: https://www.eeoc.gov/disability-discrimination#definition https://www.eeoc.gov/disability-discrimination#definition

Asymptomatic transmission, while possible, is rare. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671

raverbashing 6y ago
If it was, we wouldn't be in this situation (and the article doesn't say anything about asymptomatic transmission, only that 8% of secondary infected people were asymptomatic)
mkolodny 6y ago
"Of these 127 [COVID-19 cases], 8 (6.3% [CI, 2.1% to 10.5%]) were asymptomatic. Of the 119 symptomatic cases, 20 (16.8%) were defined as mild, 87 (73.1%) as moderate, and 12 (10.1%) as severe or critical." 6.3% of transmissions being asymptomatic doesn't sound rare to me. Also, the 89.9% of people with mild or moderate cases may still not realize they have covid, and spread it.
- Rapzid 6y ago
  It's also worth noting that there is confusion between "asymptomatic" and "pre-symptomatic". In the health industry apparently "asymptomatic" means you never present symptoms, however you can be "pre-symptomatic"(meaning you will present symptoms) and spread the disease as well. The media had been using "asymptomatic" to mean both, but then a study came out saying it was rare and blah blah blah. Should I be surprised how many people on HN have resorted to conspiracy theories, accusations of malice, and discreditation over changing and mixed information? We live in a world of changing requirements but somehow changing recommendations based on new and changing information is all the evidence we need to indulge ourselves in confirmation bias?

polote 6y ago

Then lets lockdown and force people who are less healthy to take all the steps to protect themselves, and leave alone the healty ones ?

jurassic 6y ago
Vulnerable people have needs that are supplied by the broader community (food, medicines, medical care, etc) so it's impossible to fully isolate vulnerable populations.
- polote 6y ago
  let's do like, china and directly deliver food to them. Every citizen of the us has been sent a 1200 check, US is able to fund a service like that also
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    $1200 check sent out like 4 months ago. That money is long gone.
tomc1985 6y ago
So... segregation? Something tells me that won't really fly
- recursive 6y ago
  Having or being vulnerable to a virus isn't a protected class.
  - extra88 6y ago
    People with disabilities are in a protected class. Being immunocompromised qualifies as a disability. Here's a brief definition, from a government site about equal employment: https://www.eeoc.gov/disability-discrimination#definition https://www.eeoc.gov/disability-discrimination#definition