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For you it's a flu. Unless you're really old, or have serious chronic illnesses, you will be fine.

by malwarebytess 6y ago

vermilingua 6y ago
There’s no hard data to support this claim, only anecdotes from the beginning of the first wave.
- hervature 6y ago
  Here are a couple of links from the CDC. You listen to too much news if you think that young people are at risk. For [0] you should do weekly deaths by age. You'll see that under 25 people are dying at the lowest rate in the past 5 years. For 26-45 you can bet your bottom dollar that the minor bump above is the 40-45 range. [0] - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm [1] - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...
  - hcknwscommenter 6y ago
    You are bad at separating probability from risk versus no risk. These are separate things. Young people are MOST CERTAINLY at risk. It is just that the risk is smaller. But young people do die of coronavirus and/or suffer serious complications. Your analysis of excess deaths is laughably bad. Miles driven is WAY down. People under 25 are driving way less and therefore dying way less. Coronavirus, which affects young people less is not increasing excess deaths much in that background.
  - tfehring 6y ago
    If you get it, regardless of your age, there's a relatively high probability that you will directly and indirectly infect enough people to kill at least one person. I don't want that responsibility on my conscience. Also, while the data on this for for COVID-19 is obviously limited at this point, the long-term impacts of SARS and MERS on cardiovascular health [0] are concerning. I wouldn't be surprised if getting it knocks a couple years off of life expectancy for a 25 year old. [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006295220303506#s0010 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000629522...
- timr 6y ago
  "As shown, deaths in young people (from babies to college students) are almost non-existent. The first age group to provide a substantial contribution to the death toll is 45-54 years, who contribute nearly 5% of all coronavirus deaths. More than 80% of deaths occur in people aged 65 and over. That increases to over 92% if the 55-64 age group is included." https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/coronavirus-covid-deaths-us-age-race-14863 https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/coronavirus-covid-death... "The estimated IFR is close to zero for younger adults but rises exponentially with age, reaching about 0.3% for ages 50-59, 1.3% for ages 60-69, 4% for ages 70-79, 10% for ages 80-89." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v3 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v... "Our estimated overall infection fatality ratio for China was 0·66% (0·39–1·33), with an increasing profile with age." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30243-7/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... "Among the 0-4 year, 5-17 year, 18-49 year, 50-64 year, and ≥ 65 year age groups, the highest rate of hospitalization was among adults aged ≥ 65 years, followed by adults aged 50-64 years and adults aged 18-49 years." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidvi... CDC infographic showing clearly that hospitalization and death are both strongly associated with age: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi... "The paper found that the fatality rate gradually increases with age. For example, there were no deaths among children aged nine or younger while it stood at 0.2 percent for people aged between 10 and 39. It increased to 3.6 percent in the 60-69 age bracket before rising to 8 percent among those aged 70 to 79 and 14.8 percent among people in their 80s or older." https://www.statista.com/chart/20860/coronavirus-fatality-rate-by-age/ https://www.statista.com/chart/20860/coronavirus-fatality-ra... ...and on, and on and on. There is so much data supporting the OP's statement that you have to be trying to ignore it.
  - hcknwscommenter 6y ago
    I see it differently. Yes, young people are much less likely to have a serious illness from COVID. But, there are still young people who will die from COVID (the death rate is not zero for 0-18yrs old even without preexisting conditions). For those young people, it is death. To say, "you young person, you'll be fine". Is inaccurate. To say, you will most likely be fine. Yeah, sure that's accurate, but some of those people will actually die. Let's not candy coat that. Death is permanent and awful.

For you it's a flu. Unless you're really old, or have serious chronic illnesses, you will be fine.

vermilingua 6y ago

There’s no hard data to support this claim, only anecdotes from the beginning of the first wave.

hervature 6y ago
Here are a couple of links from the CDC. You listen to too much news if you think that young people are at risk. For [0] you should do weekly deaths by age. You'll see that under 25 people are dying at the lowest rate in the past 5 years. For 26-45 you can bet your bottom dollar that the minor bump above is the 40-45 range. [0] - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm [1] - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...
- hcknwscommenter 6y ago
  You are bad at separating probability from risk versus no risk. These are separate things. Young people are MOST CERTAINLY at risk. It is just that the risk is smaller. But young people do die of coronavirus and/or suffer serious complications. Your analysis of excess deaths is laughably bad. Miles driven is WAY down. People under 25 are driving way less and therefore dying way less. Coronavirus, which affects young people less is not increasing excess deaths much in that background.
- tfehring 6y ago
  If you get it, regardless of your age, there's a relatively high probability that you will directly and indirectly infect enough people to kill at least one person. I don't want that responsibility on my conscience. Also, while the data on this for for COVID-19 is obviously limited at this point, the long-term impacts of SARS and MERS on cardiovascular health [0] are concerning. I wouldn't be surprised if getting it knocks a couple years off of life expectancy for a 25 year old. [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006295220303506#s0010 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000629522...
timr 6y ago
"As shown, deaths in young people (from babies to college students) are almost non-existent. The first age group to provide a substantial contribution to the death toll is 45-54 years, who contribute nearly 5% of all coronavirus deaths. More than 80% of deaths occur in people aged 65 and over. That increases to over 92% if the 55-64 age group is included." https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/coronavirus-covid-deaths-us-age-race-14863 https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/06/23/coronavirus-covid-death... "The estimated IFR is close to zero for younger adults but rises exponentially with age, reaching about 0.3% for ages 50-59, 1.3% for ages 60-69, 4% for ages 70-79, 10% for ages 80-89." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v3 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.23.20160895v... "Our estimated overall infection fatality ratio for China was 0·66% (0·39–1·33), with an increasing profile with age." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30243-7/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3... "Among the 0-4 year, 5-17 year, 18-49 year, 50-64 year, and ≥ 65 year age groups, the highest rate of hospitalization was among adults aged ≥ 65 years, followed by adults aged 50-64 years and adults aged 18-49 years." https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidvi... CDC infographic showing clearly that hospitalization and death are both strongly associated with age: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi... "The paper found that the fatality rate gradually increases with age. For example, there were no deaths among children aged nine or younger while it stood at 0.2 percent for people aged between 10 and 39. It increased to 3.6 percent in the 60-69 age bracket before rising to 8 percent among those aged 70 to 79 and 14.8 percent among people in their 80s or older." https://www.statista.com/chart/20860/coronavirus-fatality-rate-by-age/ https://www.statista.com/chart/20860/coronavirus-fatality-ra... ...and on, and on and on. There is so much data supporting the OP's statement that you have to be trying to ignore it.
- hcknwscommenter 6y ago
  I see it differently. Yes, young people are much less likely to have a serious illness from COVID. But, there are still young people who will die from COVID (the death rate is not zero for 0-18yrs old even without preexisting conditions). For those young people, it is death. To say, "you young person, you'll be fine". Is inaccurate. To say, you will most likely be fine. Yeah, sure that's accurate, but some of those people will actually die. Let's not candy coat that. Death is permanent and awful.