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He's allowed to do other things. Also, maybe his part of the project is done. Also the thing might be delayed.

refulgentis 6y ago
I agree, I do side projects on the weekend to decompress, but...not a great look in 4 years and running of consumer fraud edit: rolling my eyes at downvotes, we have a CEO and CTO selling "full self driving" for several thousand dollars, promising cross-continental trips by end of year, promising you're buying a money printing robotaxi, telling you to buy today before they raise prices because fair market value is $150K. You have direct evidence of this as recently as 72 hours ago. If you're still splitting hairs to infer good faith, who is benefiting from that?
- lacker 6y ago
  I downvoted because complaining about Tesla is irrelevant to the topic, not to express pro-Tesla sentiment.
  - refulgentis 6y ago
    Karpathy is the head of Tesla autopilot, and the headline is Karpathy's MinGPT.
    - danudey 6y ago
      That has nothing to do whatsoever with Tesla's "4 years and running of consumer fraud". Whatever your thoughts on Tesla's public image or business behaviors, it's not especially relevant to the discussion on machine learning.
- mynameisvlad 6y ago
  Per the guidelines: > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
duaoebg 6y ago
If they’re giving up on autopilot then fine. But if people’s lives are riding on the quality of the work then I think it sets a high bar for personal projects.
- mynameisvlad 6y ago
  I'm sorry, what? Are people not allowed to have free time and hobbies anymore? Just because someone's working on a high-profile high-risk project does not in any way change their personal time: it's theirs to do what they want with.
  - duaoebg 6y ago
    Society has given Kaparty et al a lot of latitude to take liberties with other peoples lives. In my view this creates an obligation to do the best job humanly possible.
    - mynameisvlad 6y ago
      That's all well and good for his job, and even that assertion is debatable. He's a human after all. But this is a personal project. Something that is unrelated to his job. So it doesn't really matter what "bar" it is because he's doing it for his own benefit, not Tesla's or "humanity's". Unless you're implying he can't have personal hobbies anymore. Which was the exact point of my previous comment.
      - duaoebg 6y ago
        His job affects peoples lives. He certainly is human. I'm not criticising his project. I'm not saying he can't have personal hobbies. And I'm not the one that decides the bar. I'm saying that there is a bar and it's higher when lives depend on it. There is a long list of activities that people could do in their personal time that would be considered inappropriate. What is done outside of work is relevant. It can form part of a character assessment which can have political and legal ramifications. If Tesla ends up with a dangerous product then it becomes very relevant.

I agree, I do side projects on the weekend to decompress, but...not a great look in 4 years and running of consumer fraud edit: rolling my eyes at downvotes, we have a CEO and CTO selling "full self driving" for several thousand dollars, promising cross-continental trips by end of year, promising you're buying a money printing robotaxi, telling you to buy today before they raise prices because fair market value is $150K. You have direct evidence of this as recently as 72 hours ago. If you're still splitting hairs to infer good faith, who is benefiting from that?

lacker 6y ago
I downvoted because complaining about Tesla is irrelevant to the topic, not to express pro-Tesla sentiment.
- refulgentis 6y ago
  Karpathy is the head of Tesla autopilot, and the headline is Karpathy's MinGPT.
  - danudey 6y ago
    That has nothing to do whatsoever with Tesla's "4 years and running of consumer fraud". Whatever your thoughts on Tesla's public image or business behaviors, it's not especially relevant to the discussion on machine learning.
mynameisvlad 6y ago
Per the guidelines: > Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

duaoebg 6y ago

If they’re giving up on autopilot then fine. But if people’s lives are riding on the quality of the work then I think it sets a high bar for personal projects.

mynameisvlad 6y ago
I'm sorry, what? Are people not allowed to have free time and hobbies anymore? Just because someone's working on a high-profile high-risk project does not in any way change their personal time: it's theirs to do what they want with.
- duaoebg 6y ago
  Society has given Kaparty et al a lot of latitude to take liberties with other peoples lives. In my view this creates an obligation to do the best job humanly possible.
  - mynameisvlad 6y ago
    That's all well and good for his job, and even that assertion is debatable. He's a human after all. But this is a personal project. Something that is unrelated to his job. So it doesn't really matter what "bar" it is because he's doing it for his own benefit, not Tesla's or "humanity's". Unless you're implying he can't have personal hobbies anymore. Which was the exact point of my previous comment.
    - duaoebg 6y ago
      His job affects peoples lives. He certainly is human. I'm not criticising his project. I'm not saying he can't have personal hobbies. And I'm not the one that decides the bar. I'm saying that there is a bar and it's higher when lives depend on it. There is a long list of activities that people could do in their personal time that would be considered inappropriate. What is done outside of work is relevant. It can form part of a character assessment which can have political and legal ramifications. If Tesla ends up with a dangerous product then it becomes very relevant.