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Sounds like a protectionist who doesn't want ARM to be owned by any foreign entity. "most of the licensees are competitors of Nvidia" Is this true? It seems

Sounds like a protectionist who doesn't want ARM to be owned by any foreign entity. "most of the licensees are competitors of Nvidia" Is this true? It seems like quite a stretch. Nvidia doesn't offer a chipset for the mobile, battery powered market(it tried, and gave up because of competition from Qualcomm).

Scoundreller 6y ago
> Sounds like a protectionist who doesn't want ARM to be owned by any foreign entity. Should've thought of that before they sold it to a Japanese fund.
- pvitz 6y ago
  Well, he has according to the article.
jcheng 6y ago
Tegra (as found in Nintendo Switch). Have they given up on that line of SoCs?
- 01100011 6y ago
  They still make them and they're expanding them, but mostly for the mobile/robotics market. AFAIK they're not venturing into mobile again.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    And shield, as set top box.
coldtea 6y ago
>Sounds like a protectionist who doesn't want ARM to be owned by any foreign entity. Yeah, so? If the 21st century taught us anything, is that protectionism makes sense for many products/services (not that big countries really forgot it - they only "forgot" it when for the time that their products was the only game in town).
- valuearb 6y ago
  The 21st century has taught us that free trade makes the most sense.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    Not really. Except if one confuses free trade and protection with planned vs market economy (which is a different distinction). The big powers that profited most in the 20th century, weren't following free trade - they were colonial and post-colonial overlords, enforcing their trade deals and terms on lesser countries. Free trade was OK for those big countries like the US, UK, France, Germany, etc they were running the shots, and were net top exporters themselvess... And even at that, they themselves could not care less about "free trade" doctrines. Sponsoring your own country industries, using your political force to get global deals, subsidies, etc, were OK for the mid-20th/early 21st century, when they had done it. When that changed, and their trade partners got increasingly bigger, "free trade" got too much for them and pressured their partners countries (like with the Plaza Accord). Now that the US can't do the same to China (due to its sheer size and power), old globalization and free trade flag-bearers discovered suddenly that free trade might not be the "be all end all".
    - kiproping 6y ago
      >Now that the US can't do the same to China (due to its sheer size and power), old globalization and free trade flag-bearers discovered suddenly that free trade might not be the "be all end all". This is one of the main reason why US is fighting China.
jaimex2 6y ago
Isn't Tegra their mobile chip?
- 01100011 6y ago
  It's "mobile" as in cars and robots. It's not mobile as in cell phones.
  - jaimex2 6y ago
    It's also in the Nintendo Switch :)
    - Danieru 6y ago
      Only the older chip series they could not sell to tablet makers. The newer chips are too power hungry for mobile and are targeted at automotive where Nvidia has gotten traction. Nintendo better hope Nvidia has something new coming up in time for a next generation.
      - 01100011 6y ago
        It might happen with a process shrink but that remains to be seen.
- structural 6y ago
  Tegra started out as their mobile chip, but has evolved into their robotics/automotive/industrial-SoC platform through the Jetson series of modules which are alive and well. [Sidenote: this has resulted in the hilariousness of taking an Android kernel and development infrastructure and them slowly trying to make it back into something that looks like a normal Linux system. Their board support package is a hot mess, but gets used in real products because the hardware actually works well. A software company NVidia is not.]

Scoundreller 6y ago

> Sounds like a protectionist who doesn't want ARM to be owned by any foreign entity. Should've thought of that before they sold it to a Japanese fund.

pvitz 6y ago
Well, he has according to the article.

jcheng 6y ago

Tegra (as found in Nintendo Switch). Have they given up on that line of SoCs?

01100011 6y ago
They still make them and they're expanding them, but mostly for the mobile/robotics market. AFAIK they're not venturing into mobile again.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  And shield, as set top box.

coldtea 6y ago

>Sounds like a protectionist who doesn't want ARM to be owned by any foreign entity. Yeah, so? If the 21st century taught us anything, is that protectionism makes sense for many products/services (not that big countries really forgot it - they only "forgot" it when for the time that their products was the only game in town).

valuearb 6y ago
The 21st century has taught us that free trade makes the most sense.
- coldtea 6y ago
  Not really. Except if one confuses free trade and protection with planned vs market economy (which is a different distinction). The big powers that profited most in the 20th century, weren't following free trade - they were colonial and post-colonial overlords, enforcing their trade deals and terms on lesser countries. Free trade was OK for those big countries like the US, UK, France, Germany, etc they were running the shots, and were net top exporters themselvess... And even at that, they themselves could not care less about "free trade" doctrines. Sponsoring your own country industries, using your political force to get global deals, subsidies, etc, were OK for the mid-20th/early 21st century, when they had done it. When that changed, and their trade partners got increasingly bigger, "free trade" got too much for them and pressured their partners countries (like with the Plaza Accord). Now that the US can't do the same to China (due to its sheer size and power), old globalization and free trade flag-bearers discovered suddenly that free trade might not be the "be all end all".
  - kiproping 6y ago
    >Now that the US can't do the same to China (due to its sheer size and power), old globalization and free trade flag-bearers discovered suddenly that free trade might not be the "be all end all". This is one of the main reason why US is fighting China.

jaimex2 6y ago

Isn't Tegra their mobile chip?

01100011 6y ago
It's "mobile" as in cars and robots. It's not mobile as in cell phones.
- jaimex2 6y ago
  It's also in the Nintendo Switch :)
  - Danieru 6y ago
    Only the older chip series they could not sell to tablet makers. The newer chips are too power hungry for mobile and are targeted at automotive where Nvidia has gotten traction. Nintendo better hope Nvidia has something new coming up in time for a next generation.
    - 01100011 6y ago
      It might happen with a process shrink but that remains to be seen.
structural 6y ago
Tegra started out as their mobile chip, but has evolved into their robotics/automotive/industrial-SoC platform through the Jetson series of modules which are alive and well. [Sidenote: this has resulted in the hilariousness of taking an Android kernel and development infrastructure and them slowly trying to make it back into something that looks like a normal Linux system. Their board support package is a hot mess, but gets used in real products because the hardware actually works well. A software company NVidia is not.]