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True, but while infected with mild (or no) symptoms, they may also unknowingly spread it to university employees, townsfolk, or their parents while visiting for

True, but while infected with mild (or no) symptoms, they may also unknowingly spread it to university employees, townsfolk, or their parents while visiting for the weekend. So even assuming that the personal danger is acceptable (which isn't a given; 300 deaths sounds like a horrible and avoidable tragedy to me) death figures among healthy 20-somethings don't capture the full risk of keeping a university open.

timr 6y ago
"So even assuming that the personal danger is acceptable (which isn't a given; 300 deaths sounds like a horrible and avoidable tragedy to me) death figures among healthy 20-somethings don't capture the full risk of keeping a university open." Well now you're shifting the goalposts. The comment was that the students are at risk. Someone shows you that they're not at risk, and you pivot to danger to "townsfolk". Here's the thing: those students don't just disappear, and they don't stop interacting with other college-aged students, townsfolk and employees simply because they're not at school. And if you want to protect parents, shipping their kids off to live on their own seems like a better way to do that than to have those kids living at home. (As far as "avoidable tragedies" go: during the same period that those 300 kids died of covid, literally thousands died of all other causes. More died of accidents than died of Covid. I think it's time to admit that your sense of concern is mis-calibrated.)
- justin66 6y ago
  > The comment was that the students are at risk. Someone shows you that they're not at risk, and you pivot to danger to "townsfolk". Assuming they're not stupid, evil, or politically conservative, the students are probably concerned about the risk of spreading the illness and the attendant harm that could cause, as well as what it could do to themselves.
  - timr 6y ago
    That's fine. Those students are more than welcome to make choices for themselves. We don't need let them decide for everyone.
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  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    Perhaps they think those at risk should exercise some responsibility of their own and quarantine at home? Is it a human right to have a job, venture to the grocery store, and see friends and family?
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timr 6y ago

"So even assuming that the personal danger is acceptable (which isn't a given; 300 deaths sounds like a horrible and avoidable tragedy to me) death figures among healthy 20-somethings don't capture the full risk of keeping a university open." Well now you're shifting the goalposts. The comment was that the students are at risk. Someone shows you that they're not at risk, and you pivot to danger to "townsfolk". Here's the thing: those students don't just disappear, and they don't stop interacting with other college-aged students, townsfolk and employees simply because they're not at school. And if you want to protect parents, shipping their kids off to live on their own seems like a better way to do that than to have those kids living at home. (As far as "avoidable tragedies" go: during the same period that those 300 kids died of covid, literally thousands died of all other causes. More died of accidents than died of Covid. I think it's time to admit that your sense of concern is mis-calibrated.)

justin66 6y ago
> The comment was that the students are at risk. Someone shows you that they're not at risk, and you pivot to danger to "townsfolk". Assuming they're not stupid, evil, or politically conservative, the students are probably concerned about the risk of spreading the illness and the attendant harm that could cause, as well as what it could do to themselves.
- timr 6y ago
  That's fine. Those students are more than welcome to make choices for themselves. We don't need let them decide for everyone.
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- ketamine__ 6y ago
  Perhaps they think those at risk should exercise some responsibility of their own and quarantine at home? Is it a human right to have a job, venture to the grocery store, and see friends and family?
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