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By that time these countries all have a stable power supply for EV, and we together enforce an improved recycling technology & policy. If they reach a point wh

By that time these countries all have a stable power supply for EV, and we together enforce an improved recycling technology & policy. If they reach a point where it makes sense to buy teslas, we’re all good! We who buy teslas (I’m not though. Out of my league) today have a responsibility in this world, IMO. NOT because we can and buy teslas, but because we are super rich. We have to use this wealth better, set examples and improve technology and our ways of living.

raxxorrax 6y ago
You are not super rich, you cannot even buy a Tesla. That aside, you are correct though.
- speedgoose 6y ago
  I think he was referring to his society not himself personally.
- jordanbeiber 6y ago
  This was not meant about me as an individual, but... I’ve got way more than I need in life. Riches should be judged differently - I have a really nice home in an somewhat expensive city, clean tap water, comparatively clean air and access to all the healthy food I can ever want. Also great healthcare and schooling, cause welfare state and all that. Let’s start there. I could buy a tesla if I really really wanted to, but there’s no need. I’d have to take a car loan, but most who buy a tesla do I reckon. A car half the price suits my needs, and no loans. This means I’m comparatively super rich.
rlonn 6y ago
If the people who could afford Teslas had not bought them, Tesla would have failed as a car company. VW and others would then not be interested in electrification today, and the environment would have been a lot worse off in the long run. Few would argue that Tesla hasn't significantly sped up the transition towards electric cars. It's easy to fall into the trap of underestimating (or completely forgetting about) effects that are hard to quantify and/or are long-term.
- jordanbeiber 6y ago
  Oh, don’t get me wrong. Tesla has been instrumental to opening up the EV floodgates. What I’m saying is that we need to set examples with regards to manufacturing, recycling, waste management and resource consumption Today we use and abuse a bit to much. It will realize prices of stuff, meaning less overall consumption per individual, but might end up globally sustainable.
- sukilot 6y ago
  Nissan Leaf outsold Tesla for several years, until other carmakers joined the market. Tesla is just one of many.

raxxorrax 6y ago

You are not super rich, you cannot even buy a Tesla. That aside, you are correct though.

speedgoose 6y ago
I think he was referring to his society not himself personally.
jordanbeiber 6y ago
This was not meant about me as an individual, but... I’ve got way more than I need in life. Riches should be judged differently - I have a really nice home in an somewhat expensive city, clean tap water, comparatively clean air and access to all the healthy food I can ever want. Also great healthcare and schooling, cause welfare state and all that. Let’s start there. I could buy a tesla if I really really wanted to, but there’s no need. I’d have to take a car loan, but most who buy a tesla do I reckon. A car half the price suits my needs, and no loans. This means I’m comparatively super rich.

rlonn 6y ago

If the people who could afford Teslas had not bought them, Tesla would have failed as a car company. VW and others would then not be interested in electrification today, and the environment would have been a lot worse off in the long run. Few would argue that Tesla hasn't significantly sped up the transition towards electric cars. It's easy to fall into the trap of underestimating (or completely forgetting about) effects that are hard to quantify and/or are long-term.

jordanbeiber 6y ago
Oh, don’t get me wrong. Tesla has been instrumental to opening up the EV floodgates. What I’m saying is that we need to set examples with regards to manufacturing, recycling, waste management and resource consumption Today we use and abuse a bit to much. It will realize prices of stuff, meaning less overall consumption per individual, but might end up globally sustainable.
sukilot 6y ago
Nissan Leaf outsold Tesla for several years, until other carmakers joined the market. Tesla is just one of many.