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1: Masks! that seems to work. 2: Physiotherapy? Yoga? 3: there are articles about rehabilitation centers for ex-covid patients, in europe + UK at least.
by nico_h 6y ago
1: Masks! that seems to work.
2: Physiotherapy? Yoga?
3: there are articles about rehabilitation centers for ex-covid patients, in europe + UK at least.
- DoreenMichele 6y ago1. Are you suggesting masks as a cultural norm for all eternity? I hope not. I'm talking about sustainable permanent changes. I like contactless takeout, like Little Caesar's pizza portal as one example. 2. Neither of those are for infections per se. 3. Thanks. I will look for such, but it probably sucks if the past 55 years of my life is anything to judge by.
- nfoz 6y ago> 1. Are you suggesting masks as a cultural norm for all eternity? I hope not. Well in some Asian cultures it was already normalized to wear a mask when you have any kind of symptoms of anything contagious. I was hoping that convention would move west even before this pandemic happened -- so I hope it stays with us.
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI think we are already far too accepting of the idea that it's just normal to be germy and ill. I wish that expectation would change. I don't think it has to be that way.
- nico_h 6y agoThere is a war between your immune system and your environment, with constant escalation. Every time people meet they exchange germs. Most often it's something your immune system has already seen, but sometimes you're tired or it's something that's mutated or that's brand new. Unless we live in a literal bubble with filtered air, we're going to be germy. The safest way to not be germy is likely to live in a sunny dry place away from people but then it's usually hot and maybe amazon doesn't deliver.
- staticassertion 6y agoSure. We are always germy. But if you feel explicitly under the weather and you have to go out to the store to pick up something, it would be great if you wore a mask - even if it isn't covid times. I've never done that. I've always just gone to the store. I didn't even really think about it, like of course I'm not going to be wiping my nose and touching things, but I'm also not sanitizing my hands the instant I walk into a grocery story - something I now do every single time. I do wonder what the effect would be of just having sick people wear masks when they go out?
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI have a permanently compromised immune system. I don't live in a bubble. The degree to which my life revolves around germ control is not immediately apparent to most people. Suffice it say that I don't agree with you. At all.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoTrue eradication of most germs is probably impossible, given how hard it was for smallpox and how hard it currently is for polio. But I don't think there's any inherent reason why all remotely serious diseases couldn't be driven to the level of tuberculosis - something that exists, endemic in every country, but at such a low level that most people have no real expectation they might catch it.
- giantDinosaur 6y agoWe can treat tuberculosis with antibiotics. Do you think we can just do the same thing with e.g. malaria? The only diseases we've eliminated have been from vaccines, and the diseases we control tend to be from either relatively easy behavioural changes or medicine.
- klyrs 6y agoI've been less sick this year than most. I'll probably continue wearing a mask on public transit at the very least. I'm not quite clear what your hope is about the normalcy of being germy and ill, but I think that statistically, we must accept that any group of 1000 people will certainly have somebody asymptomatic but shedding some virus or another. Just as the younger generation is more accepting of wearing gloves/condoms during sex where they receive proper sex ed, wearing masks may continue to be seen as a common sense measure for the foreseeable future.
- longtimegoogler 6y agoI was sick in March for two weeks with some kind of Bronchitis. I don't think it was Covid based on the description of the symptoms. But since working form home, neither me, my wife, or any of my kids have gotten a cold which is kind of amazing.
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI haven't had a cold in years. I still have issues because of my genetic disorder, but, yeah. Colds can be avoided and it's wonderful.
- nico_h 6y ago1: I hope not either, but in the mean time, if it works and the alternative is long covid or other forms of diseases and permanent disability, it would be a small price to pay. Plus I'm sure there will soon pop up a cottage industry of fashionable masks you can bling to your heart's content. Maybe we'll replace masks by astronaut's helmets like in all some dystopia games, with lights inside to show our face like in SF movies (so they show the actor's face, glare be damned).
- DoreenMichele 6y agoI have an incurable serious condition. My little family lives with a lot of best practices that don't involve anything like masks or helmets. I keep wondering if there's any way to export those practices to the world at large but it seems extremely unlikely given the open and aggressive hostility I'm met with for any suggestion whatsoever that there might exist a better idea than masks.
- tlb 6y agoWhat is your suggestion for a better idea than masks for the current respiratory pandemic?
- DoreenMichele 6y agoWe should be focusing more on not touching our faces and keeping a sufficient distance over masks. People seem to treat masks like a plus 2 magic item in the game of Pandemic. Once they have one on, they think they are exempt from the need to keep their distance. They also tend to touch their face more, not less, because they fiddle with it etc. I had some utter and complete asshole blow his nose under his mask standing next to me in a store. I think "don't blow your nose in a crowded public space" would be a vastly superior rule to "wear a mask."